Nicola Sturgeon - whither the SNP

[Auld-Yin]

There have been threads for Jezza and Bozo so now it is time for a thread dedicated to the length of service left for Nicky. Over the past few days the media have, finally, started to highlight her faults, omissions, and calumnies, so how long do you think Nicola Sturgeon (Peace Be Unto Her) will last in politics?

Also, this will give a bash Nicky thread leaving the Scottish Politics thread in the CA Forum to the general matters of ScotPol.

Just as a flavour of what has been happening lately

Could Alex Salmond bring down Nicola Sturgeon?

The next week could be bloody for the SNP as a Scottish Parliament inquiry concludes.

www.bbc.co.uk

Director of pro-independence think-tank steps down after controversial article criticising Nicola Sturgeon

The director of the think-tank Common Weal has stepped down from his post following the fall-out from an opinion piece which criticised Nicola Sturgeon and her role in allegations of sexual harassment against Alex Salmond.

www.scotsman.com

Even the BBC has started to query the veracity of tghe FM

Covid in Scotland: Concerns about vaccine supply amid GP frustration

Opposition parties say vaccine rollout is "slow" but the FM insists mid-February targets will be met.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not 100% about NS but the letter is definitely aimed at the FM through her Finance Minister

Kate Forbes knows it is UK Government schemes helping to protect Scotland's economy - Steve Barclay

I was disappointed but not surprised that Kate Forbes managed to write more than 900 words about the response to coronavirus without mentioning a single UK Government initiative.

www.scotsman.com

Rats - ships etc

Robin McAlpine: Nicola Sturgeon is alienating the indy movement and trampling on decades of SNP foreign policy over Russia – Source

22/03/2018angelaCommonSpace columnist and Common Weal director Robin McAlpine says Nicola Sturgeon has linked arms with Theresa May on British foreign policy over Russia and it does not bode well for the indy movement A FEW years ago when I was deeply involved in the campaign to stop the SNP...

sourcenews.scot

The Committee looking in to the shenanighans surrounding the prosecution of Alex almond are getting twitchy


Some good news for her

BBC poll suggests Nicola Sturgeon has handled Covid-19 pandemic better than Boris Johnson

There is more but finally

Officials ignored police advice on assault claims against Alex Salmond

Government officials ignored police advice to direct women alleging sexual harassment against Alex Salmond to victim support services and began a criminal inve

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[lokiuk]

She does seem to be the teflon Krankie, so no idea how many scandals it will take to prise her loose

 

[Auld-Yin]

She does seem to be the teflon Krankie, so no idea how many scandals it will take to prise her loose

The Teflon is becoming somewhat scratched at the moment.

 

[Union Jack]

Some curious logic at work if the following extract from Auld-Yin's first reference is actually taken seriously at Holyrood:

'Scots seem to approve of the way she is trying to deal with the health emergency - and some believe voters would forgive a breach of the rules in the midst of a crisis.

It's a view I've heard from Ms Sturgeon's critics as much as her allies; that these are not normal times and the normal rules of politics don't apply.

Mr Salmond's supporters are reluctant to speak on the record.

I'm told that some elected parliamentarians are afraid of the backlash they would get if they did.
But one source said: "I think in normal times she would be a goner. But I don't think she is a goner because people are rightly focused on the pandemic and her handling of the pandemic has been great."

Jack

 

[Portree Kid]

There are 4 things ongoing that should see her demise - I wonder what option she will take. Go quietly or suffer the humiliation of being forcibly removed.

1. The ruling due this month on whether the SG has the authority to hold an Independence Referendum against the wishes of the UK Government - If she loses, she should resign. Her legal advice was not up to scratch and she accepted it.

2. The ongoing Salmond debacle - I wouldn't trust Salmond as far as I could throw him. However, I believe in this matter he has got the SNP by the balls. No way back for Sturgeon.

3. If the allegations made by Fiona Taylor, the deputy chief constable of Police Scotland are true - Not only is it curtains for Sturgeon, she should be hounded for the £500,000 of taxpayers money that was sent in the direction of Salmond.

4. The Painters and Decorators into Bute House last week - Ohhhh dear, what a mistake.

So to answer your question

so how long do you think Nicola Sturgeon (Peace Be Unto Her) will last in politics?

That will depend entirely on the size of her brass neck / someone having the balls to call for her to go.

Either way - The writing is already on the wall.

 

[buggrit]

I voted "Dont Know", because as much as I detest the woman, she'll have her back up plans ready She is without a doubt, coated in Teflon, but she'll throw everything and everyone under the bus before she goes down. She has no loyalty to anyone, not even her pretendy trophy "husband". Once Swinney is thrown under the bus, then I'll believe she's close to being next.
The day she goes, I hope she's dragged out kicking and screaming, and I will be celebrating!

 

[Ecosse]

I voted "Don't know" as well.
I think she is lying through her teeth over her alleged inability to recall Soapy having "That Meeting" at her own home, where doubtless her partner would have been present, when the alleged agenda was fuelled by files to do with all the (then) allegations soon to be the subject of trials.
Not forgetting she is actually a solicitor. Seems reasonable Soapy would put her position and her legal brain in one basket for some free advice.
Might have missed the chance to front up and show which of them was the more "honourable"...or less of a snake.
But then, we all know the worn-smooth cliche about politicians.
"How do you know when one of them is lying?"
"When they open their gob"

 

[johnboyzzz]

She is slippier than a slippy thing from slippsville.

As others have said she will go down fighting and throw anyone and everyone - including her so-called "husband" - under the bus before she steps down.

 

[lokiuk]

I voted "Don't know" as well.
I think she is lying through her teeth over her alleged inability to recall Soapy having "That Meeting" at her own home, where doubtless her partner would have been present, when the alleged agenda was fuelled by files to do with all the (then) allegations soon to be the subject of trials.
Not forgetting she is actually a solicitor. Seems reasonable Soapy would put her position and her legal brain in one basket for some free advice.
Might have missed the chance to front up and show which of them was the more "honourable"...or less of a snake.
But then, we all know the worn-smooth cliche about politicians.
"How do you know when one of them is lying?"
"When they open their gob"

Swinney was no doubt present but not involved

 

[johnboyzzz]

As was posted in the other place - all this will come from the top dog

Andrew Neil on Twitter: "Scotland is awash with government-inspired gags on the media, vital documents redacted, important evidence/submissions censored or buried. Multiple threats pouring out from legal authorities. Even at The Spectator. I think it’s time to fight back. Watch this space." / Twitter

 

[stacker1]

She does seem to be the teflon Krankie, so no idea how many scandals it will take to prise her loose

Its because there isnt any other competition that really wants independence apart from hers, therefore she could fling her shit at primary school children and she would still be supported by those that want to leave the union.

 

[maguire]

As was posted in the other place - all this will come from the top dog

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Andrew Neil on Twitter: "Scotland is awash with government-inspired gags on the media, vital documents redacted, important evidence/submissions censored or buried. Multiple threats pouring out from legal authorities. Even at The Spectator. I think it’s time to fight back. Watch this space." / Twitter

Interesting. One thing about Brillo, he never ever opens his mouth without knowing exactly what he's talking about and being able to back up what he says. If I was a pol I'd be very careful of tangling with him.

 

[Portree Kid]

Its because there isnt any other competition that really wants independence apart from hers, therefore she could fling her shit at primary school children and she would still be supported by those that want to leave the union.

In Scotland, not quite so true.

Yes, in the case of the Independence nutters.

No, in the case of others, for reasons known only to themselves, would never vote Tory or Labour and are left with the SNP

There is also another class of voters, who would vote SNP and vote for Independence if the rhetoric of immediately joining the EU* was dropped.

* Ignoring the facts surrounding Scotland and actual EU membership.

 

[Murphy_Slaw]

She is slippier than a slippy thing from slippsville.

As others have said she will go down fighting and throw anyone and everyone - including her so-called "husband" - under the bus before she steps down.

The problem with having a party that is ruled by one person, who is "infallible" to the masses and beyond criticism is, when that infallibility is seen for what it is, there can be only one person to blame.
The bubble has burst and as soon as one person sticks their head above the parapet without it getting shot off, the rest will follow. All those years of having to keep your mouth shut, too afraid of the consequenses of having a differing viewpoint are about to come to a head. She will fall and it will be messy......





......and it will be a joy to behold.

 

[Bus Pass 01]

I diverse a little, but this is arrse. From way down South but with daughter and her sprogs in Scotland. Has Sir Kneel a Lot given up on Scotland and chucked the towel in for May elections already? The departure of yet another Labour head honcho in Jockland is an indication of this?

 

[BetwixtandBetween]

I am a "Don't care", not my circus not my clown.
Just here for the giggles.

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[johnboyzzz]

I diverse a little, but this is arrse. From way down South but with daughter and her sprogs in Scotland. Has Sir Kneel a Lot given up on Scotland and chucked the towel in for May elections already? The departure of yet another Labour head honcho in Jockland is an indication of this?

No one up here knew who he was anyway

 

[Auld-Yin]

She is slippier than a slippy thing from slippsville.

As others have said she will go down fighting and throw anyone and everyone - including her so-called "husband" - under the bus before she steps down.

The one thing that keeps her at the helm is the belief/knowledge that ditching her will be a huge blow to both Party and Indy votes.

 

[stacker1]

The problem with having a party that is ruled by one person, who is "infallible" to the masses and beyond criticism is, when that infallibility is seen for what it is, there can be only one person to blame.
The bubble has burst and as soon as one person sticks their head above the parapet without it getting shot off, the rest will follow. All those years of having to keep your mouth shut, too afraid of the consequenses of having a differing viewpoint are about to come to a head. She will fall and it will be messy......





......and it will be a joy to behold.

I reckon she will divert attention away from herself by blaming England London/Westminster/Tories for something and a sizeable amount of jocks will lap it up.

 

[ches]

I reckon she will divert attention away from herself by blaming England London/Westminster/Tories for something and a sizeable amount of jocks will lap it up.

AInt that the truth. The level of anti England/UK vitriol from your average BNP knuckle dragger is one of the key thing putting off many 'middle Scotland' potential voters. Sturgeon does herself or her party by her occasional descent into similar territory.