Nick Carter proposes Robot Soldiers

[Cold_Collation]

Modern robotics features a high level of artificial intelligence, quick to process information and highly efficient operation of tasks, none of this would be suitable to replace the Royal Green Jackets.

Are we now in a free-fire zone?

 

[Joshua Slocum]

Robots need specialist treatment, if we imbue them with AI they will start to learn from the soldiers
look what happens next

 

[ExAuxBalloonCorps]

Robots need specialist treatment, if we imbue them with AI they will start to learn from the soldiers
look what happens next
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A couple of ‘brufen and a tubigrip?

 

[Raven2008]

So laughingly only Nc I can think of is the fictional James Bond type CIA spy.

So is it gonna be the rise of the machines then ...lol

cheers

 

[Condottiere]

Interesting essay on “Unherd” on this topic, which summarises the problems involved quite usefully:

Killer robots will make war worse

There are no winners when lethal violence is consequence-free

unherd.com

 

[UKRaider]

Can robots surrender?

The French army is testing Boston Dynamics’ robot dog Spot in combat scenarios

Spot was apparently being used for reconnaissance.

www.theverge.com

 

[Accidental_discharge]

Can robots surrender?

The French army is testing Boston Dynamics’ robot dog Spot in combat scenarios

Spot was apparently being used for reconnaissance.

www.theverge.com

RN robots only.

 

[FEASG]

I think he means carboard cut-outs, fitted for , but not with Robotics

 

[Electromagnetic]

I think he means carboard cut-outs, fitted for , but not with Robotics

It worked in WW2.

 

[Condottiere]

It worked in WW2.

But, we were only up against the “Master Race”.

 

[Effendi]

This might be a movie, but the technology for this is all out there. People seem to be under the impression that drone-tech has only been around recently. Wrong. I was looking at research done at MIT and JPL around 25 years ago. The prime object of the research was to supply Govt agencies with the means to track, or hunt, man, or vehicle shaped objects. Even back then the better ones were using AI pattern recognition (face and shape) algorithms to differentiate between targets. I was doing my AI stuff back then at uni which is how I bumped into their research. I know that the algorithms have improved over the last 25 years, processor speeds have increased, and we all know video technology for image capture has definately improved. And, back then they were already working with drones that would comfortably sit on the flat of your hand - that sizing can also be squished down now with the advancements in battery and brushless motor tech.

 

[Cold_Collation]

This might be a movie, but the technology for this is all out there. People seem to be under the impression that drone-tech has only been around recently. Wrong. I was looking at research done at MIT and JPL around 25 years ago. The prime object of the research was to supply Govt agencies with the means to track, or hunt, man, or vehicle shaped objects. Even back then the better ones were using AI pattern recognition (face and shape) algorithms to differentiate between targets. I was doing my AI stuff back then at uni which is how I bumped into their research. I know that the algorithms have improved over the last 25 years, processor speeds have increased, and we all know video technology for image capture has definately improved. And, back then they were already working with drones that would comfortably sit on the flat of your hand - that sizing can also be squished down now with the advancements in battery and brushless motor tech.

Jane’s was running stories about fractal recognition 30 years ago.

 

[Effendi]

Jane’s was running stories about fractal recognition 30 years ago.

It was a right old beehive of activity in the 80’s as PC’s made access to computing easier. Probably the leading light in image recognition research in the UK was Igor Aleksander out of Imperial College, London. I think back to the kind of stuff that was being done by the megaminds then and it was like a baby laying there waving its arms and legs around. Nowadays, I would say, with the advances in capability that the baby is approaching being a teenager, running around and getting in trouble.

I was writing back propogation neural networks to data mine humungous data sets to predict consumer behavior - people are very predictable. The pattern/image recognition side was done using (Kohonen) self organising maps which was impressive to see in action, even back then. Nowadays though you can download better, faster software from the interweb.

It was the smart kids at MIT who really bought together all the aspects of technology to create drones. Pretty easy nowadays to have an explosive charge carrying drone and tell it that it should fly at, and detonate near, any human/vehicle* shaped object in a certain grid square.

Edit to add: With the use of image recognition/AI/smart systems you could theoretically (only theory cos it has not been seen to be done yet militarily) teach/program the drone to recognise prominent vehicle features, and/or particular movement patterns. Meaning that the drone would effectively know the difference between a Foxhound, or Mastiff, and the other sides GAZ. Along with, depending on imaging quality discriminate between the helmet, weapon and personal equipment of our sides infantry and the other sides.

 

[theoriginalphantom]

The funny bit is that the RAF Regiment don't man barriers!

there are no men in the RAF

 

[Dread]

The funny bit is that the RAF Regiment don't man barriers!

You are of course correct.

Manning the barriers is too complex for the typical RAF regiment member and typically the barriers are too far from the nearest EFI/Pizza Hut/Sunglass shop.

If they did deploy robots to support the RAF Regt, would the robot have to be programmed to shoot its own armour (if fitted), or would it just use AI to learn from the example set by the apes around it when safely out of any combat?

 

[exsniffer]

Given that, in multiple experiments, AI couldn't distinguish a child holding a baguette from an armed assailant, nor correctly identify an umbrella* then humans soldiers will be here for the foreseeable future. Automation and machine learning is perfect for mundane repetitive tasks where multiple data-points can be predicted and programmed to a correlating action - tasks requiring judgment will remain in the human domain.

Public Duties?

 

[MOzanne]

OK, I've looked and done a search and I can't see that anyone else has picked this up (if I'm mistaken, then Mods please edit).

Just seen this on the Grauniad website:

'Robot soldiers could make up quarter of British army by 2030s'​

Are we being quite serious here?

'Robot soldiers could make up quarter of British army by 2030s'

Investment in robot warfare at heart of UK’s planned five-year defence review

www.theguardian.com

What we need are Mobile Infantry....

 

[stacker1]

there are no men in the RAF

There are certainly alot of RAF into men though.

 

[theoriginalphantom]

What we need are Mobile Infantry....

an iphone with a gun on it?

 

[HCL]

It was a right old beehive of activity in the 80’s as PC’s made access to computing easier. Probably the leading light in image recognition research in the UK was Igor Aleksander out of Imperial College, London. I think back to the kind of stuff that was being done by the megaminds then and it was like a baby laying there waving its arms and legs around. Nowadays, I would say, with the advances in capability that the baby is approaching being a teenager, running around and getting in trouble.

I was writing back propogation neural networks to data mine humungous data sets to predict consumer behavior - people are very predictable. The pattern/image recognition side was done using (Kohonen) self organising maps which was impressive to see in action, even back then. Nowadays though you can download better, faster software from the interweb.

It was the smart kids at MIT who really bought together all the aspects of technology to create drones. Pretty easy nowadays to have an explosive charge carrying drone and tell it that it should fly at, and detonate near, any human/vehicle* shaped object in a certain grid square.

Edit to add: With the use of image recognition/AI/smart systems you could theoretically (only theory cos it has not been seen to be done yet militarily) teach/program the drone to recognise prominent vehicle features, and/or particular movement patterns. Meaning that the drone would effectively know the difference between a Foxhound, or Mastiff, and the other sides GAZ. Along with, depending on imaging quality discriminate between the helmet, weapon and personal equipment of our sides infantry and the other sides.

Marks and Spencers used to Model 204 for predicting footfall and store layout in the late 80s, it was relational and had early "pattern" recog. It was creaky old tech even back then.