NI upping the anti once more

#2
everyone keeps saying its a small group of no hopers but every day you look at the news now, there is bombs going off everywhere,rioting,shots fired and whats being don e to stop this except people on tv saying over and over again these people have no support
 

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#4
Thought Tony Blair undefeated World Peace Champion had stated it was all over ?

We've got the two Tommy guns that they handed in and we let all those nice reformed guys out of the nick
 
#5
Hate to tell you, but it's been like this for quite a while.
 
#7
This is what i've been wondering, have things been kicking off more recently, or are the media just reporting incidents more regularly?
During the Blair years there was still plenty of trouble but it was just not shown on National news or tabloids, it was always on the local NI news.
 
#8
One of my muckers is ex RUC and still living in the province. It's been like this for years. These are the ass wipes who didn't get ministerial positions / huge payouts etc and now want what they are due.
 
#11
It seems to be they have shaken of some touts and MI5 are losing the grip they seemed to have up until last year. Just glad to see the Loyalists are committed, to the Security Forces dealing with Republicans. Loyalist retaliation is what they want to increase their power base and support in Catholic area's.

If it was to kick off again, would the security forces be allowed the same ROE as Afghanistan instead of the yellow card when dealing with terrorists?
 
#12
It seems to be they have shaken of some touts and MI5 are losing the grip they seemed to have up until last year. Just glad to see the Loyalists are committed, to the Security Forces dealing with Republicans. Loyalist retaliation is what they want to increase their power base and support in Catholic area's.

If it was to kick off again, would the security forces be allowed the same ROE as Afghanistan instead of the yellow card when dealing with terrorists?
Mmmmm...JDAM as a tool for Urban renewal...Nice idea..;-)
 
#13
This is the PSNI's game. We dont need the Army back here or we loose Sinn Fein and the PIRA come back. We dont need it. The PSNI need to prove they can handle this. The Army back can be a bad move as much as I hate to say it even though Sinn Fein are ex PIRA but still. The PSNI have to be up to the game.
 
#15
My opinion - they are not up to the game. They are lazy in some areas. Lets look at Armagh City... They drive about in no armour. You will find them up and down the same roads 6 times atleast. They just come out on sunny days! Its pathetic in my opinion! They give themselves away. If they are not up to the game, they should call in the Army for a small period of time to sort out the DR's. Not full time as this would cause the PIRA to start up. We dont need this.
 
#16
My opinion - they are not up to the game. They are lazy in some areas. Lets look at Armagh City... They drive about in no armour. You will find them up and down the same roads 6 times atleast. They just come out on sunny days! Its pathetic in my opinion! They give themselves away. If they are not up to the game, they should call in the Army for a small period of time to sort out the DR's. Not full time as this would cause the PIRA to start up. We dont need this.
I don't think the Provo's will ever come back to play, theres to much for the power hungry politicians in Sinn Fein to lose, plus its my belief that MI5 always controlled the Army Council and put them in Stormont anyway.
With regards to the PSNI, Patten killed of there effectiveness to counter terrorism in NI, theres to many inexperienced officers in NI at the minute. Look at Peadar Heffron in Randalstown this year, lack of experience was the result of him having a sore arrse.

The deployment of the Special Reconnaissance Regiment a few years back is the sort of assistence that the Army can give to the PSNI. But the Armed Forces will never patrol the streets of NI again, it would kill normalisation.
 
#17
I don't think the Provo's will ever come back to play, theres to much for the power hungry politicians in Sinn Fein to lose, plus its my belief that MI5 always controlled the Army Council and put them in Stormont anyway.
With regards to the PSNI, Patten killed of there effectiveness to counter terrorism in NI, theres to many inexperienced officers in NI at the minute. Look at Peadar Heffron in Randalstown this year, lack of experience was the result of him having a sore arrse.

The deployment of the Special Reconnaissance Regiment a few years back is the sort of assistence that the Army can give to the PSNI. But the Armed Forces will never patrol the streets of NI again, it would kill normalisation.
Have to agree with you on this. The SRR are not doing much damage but they cant realistically because they are Reconnnaissance as you had stated. Maybe such a force to do damage and let the DR's know they cannot win.

Its simple skills with UVIED's if you work for the Security Forces, PSNI, Army or civvy it should be normal to check your car.

These simple things save your lives. Who cares if anyone see's you? They know you are in or not.

They are not stupid.
 
#20
Well we weren't allowed to sort it out in the 70's, so why advocate troops back in again ?

The Government rewarded the IRA for their terrorism in Ulster and the ROI, so it's no wonder some scallywags are at it again. They have seen that violence pays plus they don't get to serve the punishments that were handed out in the Courts.
 

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