NI and Iraq - a comparison

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by MrPVRd, Oct 24, 2005.

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  1. British troops in NI between 1969 and the late 1990s at any one time: roughly 16,000.
    Landmass of Northern Ireland: 15,000 sq km
    Population of Northern Ireland: 1.68 million
    Ratio of troops to sq km: 1.06 troops per sq km
    Ratio of troops to population: 9.5 per 1,000

    Coalition troops in Iraq 2004: 133,000
    Landmass of Iraq: 432,000 sq km
    Population of Iraq: 26million
    Ratio of troops to sq km: 0.3 troops per sq km
    Ratio of troops to population: 5 per 1000
  2. What's your point?
  3. Perhaps I could add the estimated sizes of PIRA (and the others) versus the Iraq insurgency.

    "not enough" springs to mind.
  4. There's a thread on another site at the mo, one of whose points is that at any moment we chose, we could have rubbed PIRA out overnight.

    That sort of coloured everyone's thinking. It ain't so in Iraq is it - without the Instant Sunshine Option...
  5. Fair enough.

    However, it appears to me that the Iraqi insurgency wasn't anticipated at all. Far too much of the
    opinion that they'll all be glad to have freedom and the American way. After all, it only took 5 minutes for the Iranians to
    take advantage of the situation in Afghanistan after the 2002 invasion. Know your enemy seems to be yesterday's mantra
  6. Hmmm... Is that really true SteamyWindow? 'rubbed them out anytime'? So why didn't we?

    Any chance of a link to the other debate? Would be interested to hear the arguments.

  7. Perhaps he means the Duck Hunters of the early 70's.
  8. He probably means the security forces have always known who the major players were and generally who the minor players were aswell. But not being the same as those scum, steamywindow, the security forces didnt 'rub them out'.
  9. Do they do a decent fry in Basra, too?