NHS writes off 90% of bills owed by foreign nationals

#1
It seems that the NHS is being taken for a ride by Johnny Foreigner coming over here using the NHS and then not paying the bill.

£7.6m owed by Foreigners

Surely one easy step is, pay up front or no treatment.
 
#3
But then we would be no better that the Americans, perish the thought.
Yeah but do they have a NHS that is running out of money, if you are a foreign national and you want treatment you pay up and then we will treat you, no money, no treatment.
 
#5
Yeah but do they have a NHS that is running out of money, if you are a foreign national and you want treatment you pay up and then we will treat you, no money, no treatment.
If they've arrived unconcsious in an ambulance how do you tell if the're a foreign national?
 
#7
If they've arrived unconcsious in an ambulance how do you tell if the're a foreign national?
Simple they have that swarthy, shifty look about them.
 
#8
usually the smell and colour.......
Without going too deep in to this and being as PC as yourself... How do you tell the difference between an unconscious African immigrant who arrived two weeks ago and an unconscious African who is a british citizen and has lived here their whole life?


Yes something needs to be done to stop people abusing the current system, I don't think your approach would help though.
 
#9
Without going too deep in to this and being as PC as yourself... How do you tell the difference between an unconscious African immigrant who arrived two weeks ago and an unconscious African who is a british citizen and has lived here their whole life?


Yes something needs to be done to stop people abusing the current system, I don't think your approach would help though.
How do you tell the difference ?

The unconscious African who is a british citizen & has lived here their whole life is normally working nightshift at A&E !
 
#10
Yeah but do they have a NHS that is running out of money, if you are a foreign national and you want treatment you pay up and then we will treat you, no money, no treatment.
That applies only in case of non-emergency treatments. Hospitals can't, by law, refuse treatment for life threatening injuries or incidents. Sure, they will throw you out on the street after the most basic treatments, after stabilizing you, but they cannot refuse outright to admit you in. Doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not, have insurance or not.


Just my $0.02 as an American.

More info:

Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
#11
Yeah but do they have a NHS that is running out of money, if you are a foreign national and you want treatment you pay up and then we will treat you, no money, no treatment.
Yes, but they are not the reason the NHS is running out of money. Blaming the foreigners for our own incompetent mismanagement of this sprawling, bloated money pit is just another smoke screen. If it was being run effectively & efficiently nobody would give two hoots about the relative peanuts involved in sorting out a few visitors. Indeed we should really be in the position where, when a foreign visitor genuinely ends up in one of our hospitals through sudden illness & want to know what it costs, the answer should be nothing at all & send them home humbled by our human generosity as a nation.
 
#12
Yes, but they are not the reason the NHS is running out of money. Blaming the foreigners for our own incompetent mismanagement of this sprawling, bloated money pit is just another smoke screen. If it was being run effectively & efficiently nobody would give two hoots about the relative peanuts involved in sorting out a few visitors. Indeed we should really be in the position where, when a foreign visitor genuinely ends up in one of our hospitals through sudden illness & want to know what it costs, the answer should be nothing at all & send them home impressed by our human generosity as a nation.
I agree it is not the reason that it is running out of money, it is spewing money from every orifice. So surely the money that could be recouped here would not stop the rot but would pay for at least some equipment, a couple of operations or the Gods forbid maybe extra nurses or doctors.
 
#13
My brother works in a well known London teaching hospital.

It is well known for visitors from certain nations to enter on a visitors visa with the intention of visiting established relatives in the UK. Some will be pregnant and will travel in enough time to meet the airline restrictions. They enter for the one reason of dropping their sprog in the in the UK. Once sorted and all is well a week or two later they head on home and skip the bill.

Its all very well demanding payment up front from foreign nationals but what if they are minutes away from dropping and they don't have the ability to pay?
 
#14
My brother works in a well known London teaching hospital.

It is well known for visitors from certain nations to enter on a visitors visa with the intention of visiting established relatives in the UK. Some will be pregnant and will travel in enough time to meet the airline restrictions. They enter for the one reason of dropping their sprog in the in the UK. Once sorted and all is well a week or two later they head on home and skip the bill.

Its all very well demanding payment up front from foreign nationals but what if they are minutes away from dropping and they don't have the ability to pay?
Then there is the street, tough shit. Medical tourism should be stopped.
 
#15
I'm surprised we only lose 90%
 

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#17
My brother works in a well known London teaching hospital.

It is well known for visitors from certain nations to enter on a visitors visa with the intention of visiting established relatives in the UK. Some will be pregnant and will travel in enough time to meet the airline restrictions. They enter for the one reason of dropping their sprog in the in the UK. Once sorted and all is well a week or two later they head on home and skip the bill.

Its all very well demanding payment up front from foreign nationals but what if they are minutes away from dropping and they don't have the ability to pay?
Simple, treat them and if they die, send the bill to the relatives at the address given or hand it to the person who came in with them. If they don't cough up, use the body for medical research instead of burial. That'd soon sort out some of the scroungers if they realise that their nearest and dearest 3rd cousin will be mutilated instead of recieving their version of Heaven.
 
#18
Simple, treat them and if they die, send the bill to the relatives at the address given or hand it to the person who came in with them. If they don't cough up, use the body for medical research instead of burial. That'd soon sort out some of the scroungers if they realise that their nearest and dearest 3rd cousin will be mutilated instead of recieving their version of Heaven.
The importance of burial for many religions could work in favor of that concept. Although a bit extreme, it could save us a tidy fortune and help with medical advances.

Nice thinking Joker. :judge:
 
#19
It seems that the NHS is being taken for a ride by Johnny Foreigner coming over here using the NHS and then not paying the bill.

£7.6m owed by Foreigners

Surely one easy step is, pay up front or no treatment.
Or actually request payment.

A friend came visiting from Canada a couple of years ago. She had no medical insurance and managed to break her wrist. We took her to the hospital, expecting to be billed. The doctors treated her, kept her in overnight, and told us not to worry about payment when asked.

I thought of it as a nice gesture at the time, but it seems quite plausible that they weren't in the routine of billing or just didn't know how to bill.
 

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