NHS: towering monument to vision - and envy Stateside

#1
In case we ever wonder what life might be like in a Tory-Truman-Show of Private Health Care:

"Contrast [Doc Martin's Cornish GP surgery] with the bedlam of an American doctor’s office... ‘Tell him it’s not a co-pay because I just had one operation, not two. The first time he didn’t get it all and had to go back in, so that counts as one!’ The other patients in the waiting room can hear all this. While they are reluctantly visualising it, the debate shifts to whether the problem qualifies as a ‘pre-existing condition’. Is there a haemorrhoid that doesn’t? Nothing can pre-exist like a haemorrhoid, so you’d better not have one in the good old USA, because your private health insurance might not pay for it."

To your health | The Spectator
 
#3
Yep I have to agree that the NHS is really envied by almost all other countries - so much so that it has been copied by err, err,, err .. no other countries.
 

Schaden

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Book Reviewer
#15
You boys should try moving to a country where there is no NHS and you're on your own paying £500 a month for medical insurance that "might" cover whatever ails you, the kids and the missus.

When you've tried that for a couple of years come back and whine about the NHS.

It can be experienced in just about any 3rd world country out there.
 
#16
Much as I love going to the US, I cant help but feel that outside of a narrow coastal strip of cities and a few inland blips, vast swathes of the country are similar in terms of quality and life and support to many third world nations. Some of the worst poverty I've ever seen was in the US, and their health system is not something I would personally wish on anyone.
 
#19
You boys should try moving to a country where there is no NHS and you're on your own paying £500 a month for medical insurance that "might" cover whatever ails you, the kids and the missus.

When you've tried that for a couple of years come back and whine about the NHS.
On an average wage of £26k, you pay something like £400 a month in NI anyway. If your missis is working too, that's more like £800.
 

mercurydancer

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Book Reviewer
#20
Well, the French didnt exactly copy the NHS but did found a remarkably efficient health service. The Dutch did it a little better, the Germans a little worse, but all, including the NHS are remarkable systems of healthcare. The NHS is remarkably efficient, but we have been kicked around so much as a political football its time just to let us get on with healthcare. If you need examples - MRSA blood borne infections which are acquired in hospitals has dropped about 99% in the hospital I work at over the last three years. We did it out of hard work, and I am proud to be part of that achievement.

The political micromanaging started with Blair but is as bad now as it ever was. A recent example? Discharges during the night. This one landed in my in tray a week ago. The basic breakdown is that discharges include people who die, who self-discharge, who are transferred to more specialist centres (Intensive care mainly, but with some to mental health trusts), residents of Her Majesty who are treated in NHS hospitals and are transferred back to prison, and those who simply want to leave hospital late (not a discharge against medical advice, but those who have had day case treatments which needed just a few more hours just to make sure they are ok) amounts to about 95% of discharges.

So... we can fiddle the figures, by altering the figures which state that the discharge for people who have died etc are not counted, or we could simply tell the politicians (and also the BBC) to fcuk off. I'm heavily in favour of the latter, but as NHS senior management will suck the gusset of almost any politician from a parish councillor upwards, that aint likely.