newsreaders refuse to wear poppies

#1
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Newsreader Jon Snow rails against 'poppy fascism'
09.11.06
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Channel 4 newsreader Jon Snow is today at the centre of a row after he hit out at "poppy fascism".

He vowed he would not wear the Remembrance Day flower on-air - and slammed the "unpleasant" attitude of those who insist he should.

He has fronted the evening news with a bare lapel, despite the decision by some TV colleagues to wear poppies. While admitting opinion was "bitterly divided", he said: "I do not believe in wearing anything which represents any kind of statement."

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Writing on a new blogsite set up by Channel 4 News, the 59-year-old also criticised the BBC's decision to allow newsreader Fiona Bruce to wear a crucifix. "Fiona Bruce is to be allowed to continue to wear a cross-shaped item of jewellery," he said.

"I am allowed to wear unspeakably bright ties. But there's a world of difference there that we should be assertive about." He said he was often "begged" to wear symbols, from Aids ribbons to Marie Curie flowers - but would never agree. "And in those terms, and those terms alone, I do not and will not wear a poppy.

"There is a rather unpleasant breed of poppy fascism out there - 'he damned well must wear a poppy!' I do, in my private life, but I am not going to wear it or any other symbol on air. "I respect our armed forces, the sacrifice and the loss, and like others I remember them on Remembrance Sunday."

However, More4 News host Sarah Smith said: "I agree newscasters shouldn't wear all sorts of political or charitable adornments ... but I think poppies are different. They are so ubiquitous for the first 11 days of November that not wearing one makes more of a statement than having one on." She said many viewers assumed Snow was "taking a stand against militarism or the Iraq war".

One viewer responding on Snow's blogsite said he was "disgusted" at the newsreader's attitude. Another wrote: "You conform by wearing a shirt and tie to read the news, why not wear a poppy too? If you truly were an impartial and free spirit you'd tell us the news sat there in a T-shirt and Bermuda shorts."

Channel 4 correspondent Lindsay Taylor said he too would not wear a poppy on screen, and said bosses had left the choice up to staff.

A spokesman for the Royal British Legion said he did not recognise claims of poppy fascism. "I don't know where that has come from. We certainly don't prescribe who wears a poppy or how or where or why."
 
#4
I understand his point about charities all wanting him to wear their symbols, but the poppy represents more than 'just' a fund-raising tool.

As an aside, I wondered if there was some kind of code regarding the poppy leaf pointing downwards as so many meeja-types are wearing it that way...
 
#5
I was watching hollyoaks (for the honeys - honest) and the little boy was going on about his civvy parents killed in a car crash being remembered on rememberence day. I meant to email them and shimf then but I forgot. Watch my tracer...
 
#7
It boils down to a simple lack of respect for those who sacrificed their lives to allow this country to have the society it has.

"I do not believe in wearing anything which represents any kind of statement."

What a kn0b.
 
#8
DozyBint said:
I understand his point about charities all wanting him to wear their symbols, but the poppy represents more than 'just' a fund-raising tool.

As an aside, I wondered if there was some kind of code regarding the poppy leaf pointing downwards as so many meeja-types are wearing it that way...
Quite correct D.B.
To me it shows you care,besides,what makes wearing a poppy any less different than those little stickers given out by other charities like Cancer Research,ect that get pinned on you by the little old lady in the high street?
Nothing in my book!
 
#9
I respect our armed forces, the sacrifice and the loss, and like others I remember them on Remembrance Sunday. That's the way it is. I won't be wearing a black tie for anyone's death - I don't for my own relatives, so why on earth would I for anyone else's?
:x :evil: :x
 
#10
FieldDiscipline said:
I was watching hollyoaks (for the honeys - honest) and the little boy was going on about his civvy parents killed in a car crash being remembered on rememberence day. I meant to email them and shimf then but I forgot. Watch my tracer...
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Not that I was watching Hollyoaks, :oops: but that got me too, as did the scene where the kids were on lunchtime detention and were told to write an anti-war poem!
 
#12
actually i respect his view entirely. moreover i respect his reasoning as having to be seen to be utterly impartial in the position he occupies with the rersponsibilities it entails.

would it be appropriate for him to wear any form of political emblem just because 'everyone' supported that particular viewpoint?

some do view wearing a poppy - particularly a red poppy - as an announcement of political view. that they have a right to do so must be inherent in our liberal democracy. personally i don't believe it carries the message that some believe it does, but i understand why they think that.

you may or may not agree with their rationale for thinking that way, but you have absolutely no right to deny them that freedom that very many young men died to ensure - or is it freedom of expression and political belief: as long as it conforms?
 
#13
If I put aside the fact that it is the Poppy that he is speaking of in this instance, I do support his stance about being plastered with symbols pushed onto him. As I read it, he wears one in his 'civilian' persona so he has contributed. I do not always transfer mine from jacket to jacket or from jacket to top coat so could be viewed as a non-believer but this is not correct.
 
#14
Well done, Cokecan, for putting your head above the parapet! I don't agree with his not wearing a poppy, but understand the logic involved.
 
#15
I have more time for a news reader who personally understands the significance of the poppy and wears on “Off Duty” than a presenter who wears one because it is the “thing to be seen doing” but gives not a rats arrse as to the meaning.
 
#17
He vowed he would not wear the Remembrance Day flower on-air - and slammed the "unpleasant" attitude of those who insist he should.
Be careful what you write (if you're complaining direct) or you'll be playing right into his hands. I would argue, if I thought it would make any difference, that from his privileged position as a broadcaster he has a duty to encourage the general populous to appreciate the sacrifices made by others. However, because of those sacrifices, he has the freedom to do what the fcuk he wants. It all comes down to 'rights' and 'responsibilities'. I think that's the best advert for the poppy and I welcome the debate.
 
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Trotsky said:
This is from www.thisislondon.com


Newsreader Jon Snow rails against 'poppy fascism'
09.11.06
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Channel 4 newsreader Jon Snow is today at the centre of a row after he hit out at "poppy fascism"
He's fundamentally right that this is a matter of personal choice. Takes some balls to swim against the tide, and the British are traditionally against great waves of collective obedience to da system.

It's worth avoiding remembrance losing its dignity by becoming overbearing. It's a shame if the poppy becomes tainted by people feeling obliged out of begrudging duty rather than willing wearers.

Reminds of the Legion group lobbying the church vicar to run the service their way. A bit disingenuous really.
 
#19
Jon Snow is a well established Cun1 of some standing; Channel 4 News acts as tag-buddy to the BBC in terms of passive-aggressively promoting a militantly liberal/left wing agenda - in a slick and polished style which gives it false credibility. If it wasn't for the men and women we remember by wearing the poppy, he would have been brought up speaking German or Russian, before being identified as disciple of the Bum and carted off to eventually drift onto the countryside as a thin layer of ash.
 
#20
Isn't that the point? Past generations fought for many reasons; free speech being one of the benefits. We may not agree with his views (and to be fair, he does wear a poppy privately and appears to be acting on principle) but if we attack him for exercising this right, does this not go against what servicemen fought and died for?
 

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