News story: UK residency rules for Armed Forces recruits

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Ministry of Defence said:
As of yesterday, 11 July 2013, Commonwealth recruits who wish to join the Armed Forces (Regulars) will need to demonstrate they have lived in the UK for the last 5 years.
In addition, non-British recruits to the Reserves will be required to have ‘indefinite leave to remain’ in the UK.
The long-standing 5-year UK residency requirement allowing Commonwealth citizens to join the Armed Forces was waived in 1998.
In order to deliver the future structure of the Armed Forces under the requirements of the Strategic Defence and Security Review, we are already reducing their size by adjusting our recruit intake and making some redundancies.
The government has now reviewed the waiver and has reintroduced the 5- year residency requirement in the UK for future new recruits from Commonwealth countries.
This will not affect personnel already serving, or on recruitment, from the Republic of Ireland or for the Brigade of Gurkhas.
The Minister of State for Defence Personnel, Welfare and Veterans Mark Francois said:
There has been a long tradition of Commonwealth citizens serving in the British Armed Forces and most recently on operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. We continue to value their service which provides an important contribution in defending the UK at home and abroad.


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I have been following this, and have no problem in principle with this return to the pre-1998 position.

This will not affect personnel already serving, or on recruitment, from the Republic of Ireland or for the Brigade of Gurkhas.
That sentence could be made clearer by inserting "or" before "from the Republic of Ireland".

I will be interested to learn what stage in the recruitment process has to have been reached to be regarded as already "on recruitment" in order to be exempted from the change. As only a finite number of people is involved, I believe that if anything we should err on the side of generosity on that particular point.
 
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at least someone up there listened to my suggestion on limiting commonwealth soldiers being recruited over natural residency. Its only fair to the lads being mad redundant.
 
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...I will be interested to learn what stage in the recruitment process has to have been reached to be regarded as already "on recruitment" in order to be exempted from the change. As only a finite number of people is involved, I believe that if anything we should err on the side of generosity on that particular point.
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#6
at least someone up there listened to my suggestion on limiting commonwealth soldiers being recruited over natural residency. Its only fair to the lads being mad redundant.
??? I'm not sure I follow your logic. The Services will constantly need fresh recruits (albeit at slightly reduced numbers) but how will restricting F&C have any impact on those made (mad?) redundant?
 
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??? I'm not sure I follow your logic. The Services will constantly need fresh recruits (albeit at slightly reduced numbers) but how will restricting F&C have any impact on those made (mad?) redundant?
Davethe clown is actually a genuine clown. Hope this helps.
 
#8
hey guys,

I am new to arrse and i am just trying to understand this new residency requirement.

I keep seeing that this applies commonwealth applicants. I am a British Citizen born and raised, living in Northern Ireland until 2009. I am now in Canada but I am looking to come home and I was looking to apply however I am trying to figure out if this new rule applies to me too.

Cheers,
 
#9
No, as far as your nationality is concerned but you would need to check the clause for residency in the UK for UK Nationals. As you are resident in Canada the reason for your residence becomes a factor. If it is for reasons such as education or your parent's employment then that may be acceptable otherwise you may need to return to the UK for 3 years before applying.

You could consider applying for Canadian citizenship and joining over there, it may be quicker.
 
#10
You wouod think that the army would want to take the best they possibly can. If they required the commonwealth citizens to meet higher fitness levels or education levels would be a better deal.
Why give up a really fit, comitted, perfect recruit that is an ozzy or kiwi, for a not so good british or irish one.
 
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You wouod think that the army would want to take the best they possibly can. If they required the commonwealth citizens to meet higher fitness levels or education levels would be a better deal.
Why give up a really fit, comitted, perfect recruit that is an ozzy or kiwi, for a not so good british or irish one.
Because the Kiwis and Aussies have their own Armies? Just chucking that out there.
 
#12
Because the Kiwis and Aussies have their own Armies? Just chucking that out there.
Yes but I can see why a Kiwi would be keen to join the British Army though, as under resourced as it may seem, it's a million time better than what NZ has got and the opportunities one could get in the British Army are much much greater.
 
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Looking at the army website under "nationality and residency" it says British citizens can apply-nothing about residency. The residency only comes into play for citizens of a commonwealth country.

I have sent an email to recruitment in hopes of clearing this up.


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Yes but I can see why a Kiwi would be keen to join the British Army though, as under resourced as it may seem, it's a million time better than what NZ has got and the opportunities one could get in the British Army are much much greater.
So why is that the British Army's problem? I can see why all the romanians etc want to come to the UK as well, but it doesn't mean we should let them in and give them all the money
 
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So why is that the British Army's problem? I can see why all the romanians etc want to come to the UK as well, but it doesn't mean we should let them in and give them all the money
Didn't say it was there problem, said I can see why they would want to, and obviously until these cut backs it's been a good thing.
Not really the same thing, Romanians wanting to come and dole bludge and get handouts, and Commonwealth wanting to serve the United Kingdom as well as effectively serve their home country too.
 
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It comes too late for me....if this had become sooner I would be serving by now...instead i'm still awaiting for selection....

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Why give up a really fit, comitted, perfect recruit that is an ozzy or kiwi, for a not so good british or irish one.
Cos it's the British Army, not the gis-a-job Army!


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Cos it's the British Army, not the gis-a-job Army!


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And the New Zealand Police force has plenty British Citizens serving in it. When my father did his training there were two former British Army soldiers who had just left, made the jump overseas and joined up.
So hardly a very well though argument.
 
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And the New Zealand Police force has plenty British Citizens serving in it. When my father did his training there were two former British Army soldiers who had just left, made the jump overseas and joined up.
So hardly a very well though argument.
If they were cutting back recruitment, you can be sure that foreign nationals would be the first to be restricted from joining - have you seen the difference in criteria just to be allowed residency? It's not an argument that needs too much thinking about
 
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If they were cutting back recruitment, you can be sure that foreign nationals would be the first to be restricted from joining - have you seen the difference in criteria just to be allowed residency? It's not an argument that needs too much thinking about
They'd probably only take foreginers I'd imagine, would help the multicultural look, cant have only white males as cops.

I do understand some of the reasoning behind it, just voicing my opinion not entirely disagreeing with it.
Just that it's a big kick in the nuts for anyone who was in the process who has now been cut.
 

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