News story: Royal Navy prepares for future UK fishery patrols

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HMS Forth is the first of five state-of-the-art Royal Navy vessels designed for fishery protection, as well as counter-piracy, anti-smuggling, border patrol, counter terrorism and maritime defence duties.

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson said:


The Royal Navy has a proud tradition of protecting the UK’s coastline and keeping a close eye on our fishing waters. With these state-of-the-art, vastly capable ships we stand ready to protect our fisheries once Britain leaves the EU.

The River-class Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV) ‘production line’ is moving apace with the £116 million ships emerging at around six month intervals. The Royal Navy Fishery Protection Squadron are expecting a further two ships – HMS Medway and Trent – to be handed over later this year, with the remaining two – HMS Tamar and Spey – expected to arrive in Portsmouth by 2020. Just last week HMS Trent was formally named at the Glasgow shipyard where was built.

They will become the Royal Navy’s eyes and ears around the UK, helping to safeguard fishing stocks. They will also assist in reassuring and protecting the Falkland Islands and are capable of deploying to the Mediterranean and Caribbean to uphold UK interests around the world.

Last week the Treasury announced that the MOD will receive £12.7 million from the Government’s Brexit preparation allocation to support work with DEFRA on maintaining the UK’s fisheries. The MOD is working closely with other government departments like DEFRA to determine the optimum deployment of these extremely flexible vessels.

With a total crew of around 58, but designed to go to sea with 39, they can spend up to 320 days a year on operational taskings. The larger crew allows a rotation of personnel to ensure they get to spend time at home or on training.

The new OPVs are four knots faster than their predecessors at 24 knots, have an increased range of 5,500 nautical miles, have a 30mm automatic cannon as their main armament instead of a 20mm gun, two Miniguns, four machine-guns and are equipped with two Pacific 24 sea boats. Each ship has an extended flight deck to operate up to Merlin size helicopters and accommodation for up to 50 embarked Royal Marines for boarding and supporting operations ashore if required.

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Deploying Apaches on these boats to deter EU fishing boats raiding out fishing stocks seems fair to me.

Maybe the Apaches can be modified to play Flight of the Valkryies as they target any illegal activities in our waters?.

At least they would be playing music from a German composer!.
 
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Nice to see the Andrew has at least been given a task which should be well within the capabilities of the few ships we have left...
 
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Are they capable of manning them?
As soon as PoW is put into extended readiness, there will be hundreds of matelots going spare. Sadly, though, they will be big-ship matelots, used to working 9-5 with weekends off at sea, and luxurious 1 or 2 man cabins on something that resembles a cruise ship with its own airport, not small-ship matelots working twelve hour days, every day, and living cheek by jowl with their oppos.
 
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Are they capable of manning them?
As soon as PoW is put into extended readiness, there will be hundreds of matelots going spare. Sadly, though, they will be big-ship matelots, used to working 9-5 with weekends off at sea, and luxurious 1 or 2 man cabins on something that resembles a cruise ship with its own airport, not small-ship matelots working twelve hour days, every day, and living cheek by jowl with their oppos.
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Oh, I just love irony, the poster who believes he is the First Sea Lord, @A2_Matelot otherwise known as Petty Officer Writer Scroggins clearly knows better than the SoS

NO. Not a Naval task, you've OGDs for that with RN support when it can. We should be stepping away smartly from fishing policing
Stands back and waits for the rest of the Arrse 'RN Posse' to give it large
 
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Deploying Apaches on these boats to deter EU fishing boats raiding out fishing stocks seems fair to me.

Maybe the Apaches can be modified to play Flight of the Valkryies as they target Brussels.

At least they would be playing music from a German composer!.
Fixed that for you.
 
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As soon as PoW is put into extended readiness, there will be hundreds of matelots going spare. Sadly, though, they will be big-ship matelots, used to working 9-5 with weekends off at sea, and luxurious 1 or 2 man cabins on something that resembles a cruise ship with its own airport, not small-ship matelots working twelve hour days, every day, and living cheek by jowl with their oppos.
The accommodation in an OPV is good - and in home waters OPVs work a routine that means people get down/shore time - you have three watches, but keep two aboard at any time, so people get time ashore. Compare this with a frigate/destroyer/SSN/carrier/LPD/MCMV deploying for six to nine months..

OPVs do not just done fishery protection, they have other roles such as MAGD, national tasking such as marking transiting Russian warships, and training Navigators and others. They contribute to maritime domain awareness and security - and things like boarding are skills used by the rest of the Navy.
 

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Oh, I just love irony, the poster who believes he is the First Sea Lord, @A2_Matelot otherwise known as Petty Officer Writer Scroggins clearly knows better than the SoS

Stands back and waits for the rest of the Arrse 'RN Posse' to give it large
Read what I wrote and think about it, think about the position the RN is in. Does is make sense to have RN vessels, with RN crew performing a role when there are OGD with vessels and crews tasked for the same role. If you have the ability go and look at how the fishing task is funded and the number of days it is to deliver (it's in the RN plan if you have access). Equally think about the constabulary role that requires and the ramifications therein.

Then look at what an OPV could and perhaps should do, especially if we were to release, for example a T23 from FRE and replace some of that tasking with an OPV.

But instead of joining and spending your first 5 posts throwing very witty grenades, why not explain why the RN should pick up fish duties in lieu of the OGDs? Just because we do certain tasks doesn't mean we always should and that should always be challenged.
 

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Is responsibility for the Scottish fishery devolved?
 
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Read what I wrote and think about it, think about the position the RN is in. Does is make sense to have RN vessels, with RN crew performing a role when there are OGD with vessels and crews tasked for the same role. If you have the ability go and look at how the fishing task is funded and the number of days it is to deliver (it's in the RN plan if you have access). Equally think about the constabulary role that requires and the ramifications therein.

Then look at what an OPV could and perhaps should do, especially if we were to release, for example a T23 from FRE and replace some of that tasking with an OPV.

But instead of joining and spending your first 5 posts throwing very witty grenades, why not explain why the RN should pick up fish duties in lieu of the OGDs? Just because we do certain tasks doesn't mean we always should and that should always be challenged.

I have often wondered why the "fish-boats" task has remained core RN, when other MACA / associated tasks (eg SAR) have gone to OGDs in recent years.
 
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