News story: RAF helicopters ready to support French in Mali

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The helicopters, from RAF Odiham, are providing niche logistical support to French combat forces conducting counter-terrorism operations as part of Operation Barkhane. UK forces have built three temporary aircraft hangers on the ground, enabling the Chinooks to fly multiple missions each week.

Armed Forces minister Mark Lancaster said:


This deployment demonstrates the vital role our Armed Forces play, working alongside our French allies to tackle terrorism and reduce threats to European and UK security.

The deployment is in addition to the UK’s long-standing support of UN, EU and G5 Sahel Joint Force operations in Mali aimed at preventing extremists from using the ungoverned space in the Sahel to plan and launch attacks on Europe, as well as countering the illegal trade in people, drugs, weapons and wildlife.

Minister for Africa Harriett Baldwin said:


This helicopter deployment demonstrates the UK’s commitment to do more in the Sahel, alongside £50m of UK Aid providing lifesaving humanitarian support, and a bigger diplomatic network.

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Why the RAF, well the French have no large helicopters in their inventory. They could have asked their US Army, German, Dutch or Italian friends or did they refuse?
 
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UK and France commit to new defence cooperation
They’ve done what they said they would do in January:
The UK will deploy RAF Chinook helicopters to Mali to provide logistical support the French counter-terrorism mission there. This will increase British logistical support to France’s Operation BARKHANE, which up to now has been limited to RAF strategic air transport flights. The UK already supports the UN mission in Mali, along with military support to UN missions in South Sudan, Somalia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. British military personnel are also training the Nigerian armed forces in countering the threat from Boko Haram.
 
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Why the RAF, well the French have no large helicopters in their inventory. They could have asked their US Army, German, Dutch or Italian friends or did they refuse?
Accepting all of your post as truthful, I nevertheless can't help feeling that there's not a single component (Sea, Land, Air, in order of seniority . . . . with the most junior a long way to the right of the seniority timeline :) ) whose Service Chief wouldn't jump in with both feet to any large scale/enduring operational commitment that was on offer, in the expectation that the next election result will bring with it, the prospect of further cuts to defence budgets
 
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Armed Forces minister Mark Lancaster said:

This deployment demonstrates the vital role our Armed Forces play, working alongside our French allies to tackle terrorism and reduce threats to European and UK security.
The deployment is in addition to the UK’s long-standing support of UN, EU and G5 Sahel Joint Force operations in Mali aimed at preventing extremists from using the ungoverned space in the Sahel to plan and launch attacks on Europe.
They'd be better off deploying to Wolverhampton then. Cheaper on the AVTUR too.
 
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. . . . Minister for Africa Harriett Baldwin said:
This helicopter deployment demonstrates the UK’s commitment to do more in the Sahel, alongside £50m of UK Aid providing lifesaving humanitarian support, and a bigger diplomatic network.​

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Hopefully, it will be DfID that will be paying for this?!
 
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Accepting all of your post as truthful, I nevertheless can't help feeling that there's not a single component (Sea, Land, Air, in order of seniority . . . . with the most junior a long way to the right of the seniority timeline :) ) whose Service Chief wouldn't jump in with both feet to any large scale/enduring operational commitment that was on offer, in the expectation that the next election result will bring with it, the prospect of further cuts to defence budgets
Cynical! Surely combating terrorism is in our national interest, and also helps influence a close ally. I think the RAF has the second largest number of Chinooks in the world part from the US Army, so why not use them?
 
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It's an assessment based on observed organisational behaviour over the last few decades.


Surely combating terrorism is in our national interest, and also helps influence a close ally.
Same mantra was on everybody's lips when we went into Iraq and Afghanistan: and look how that worked out for everybody.

Let's hope our close ally is better at this business than the British Army of the 21st Century has shown itself to be, so far.

I think the RAF has the second largest number of Chinooks in the world part from the US Army, so why not use them?
Well, if they don't get used, we won't have that number for very much longer, will we? Which simply brings us back to my first point. Also worth noting that as long as little Great Britain is still choking off public spending, even using them Chinooks in this kind of effort is no guarantee against cuts further downstream.
 
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REALLY!! . . . W.T.F. . . . !!

TERROR SHOCK: France BEGS UK to help battle jihadis, then BILLS us £2MILLION

"FRANCE begged Britain for military help to battle jihadi terrorists - and then billed the UK £2million . . .

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson was reportedly “livid” after the French tried to charge the Ministry of Defence for flying out equipment and kit to Africa.

The UK sent Chinook helicopters and around 100 British troops to jihadi hotspot Mali to back French forces fighting Islamist terrorists last month.

According to The Sun, Mr Wiliamson threatened to ground our army choppers when the French tried to bill the MoD.

A source told the paper: “We could not believe it. They begged for help, we give it and then they want to charge us for keeping the mission running".



TERROR SHOCK: France BEGS UK to help battle jihadis, then BILLS us £2MILLION

PUBLISHED by: Joe Duggan, EXPRESS, on Monday 20 August 2018.
 
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Why the RAF, well the French have no large helicopters in their inventory. They could have asked their US Army, German, Dutch or Italian friends or did they refuse?
Isn’t coalition the way forward.... as the UK never expects to fight a major war without being a part of one
 
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Isn’t coalition the way forward.... as the UK never expects to fight a major war without being a part of one
It’s not likely your lot would join anyway.
 
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