News story: Novichok nerve agent use in Salisbury: UK government response

Who was poisoned?
The evidence says nobody was poisoned.


most convenient considering the uk system is already planning for no trial to take place AKA no evidence to ever be shown to civpop.


That all is not as displayed?
Nobody died and everybody recovered after pretty short periods of time....how's that?


Yeah, I've just answered that.

Officials have conceded that the “brutal truth” is that if the suspects do not enter an allied country and get caught, the UK will be powerless to bring them to trial.


2 X D Notices protect the evidence from minions like us.
Haven't you twigged yet?


Because there aren't any inconsistencies in the official story from gov/media?
Liquid, gel, gel, liquid?
Various flash-to-bang contamination times.
Various recovery times.
No cross-contamination of first responders/ plod/ med staff etc etc etc.


Thanks for the tip.
i will try harder next time. ;)

Go on then - what evidence shows that nobody was poisoned?
 
He knows, he has been told loads of times.
He is playing you lot like a good'n...
Have you been following the thread?
Seems like there's been a fair bit of playing recently. :)

118 also said something quite unusual recently. That made a real change, not that it had anything to do with the point of his post of course :)
 
That made me chuckle.

You told me to refer to Prof. Uglev in regards of his decontamination procedure having used it as an argument to refute the decontamination with water idea.

When challenged, you were unable to address it so make that flippant comment.

How can you educate anybody about anything when you will not learn the basic facts.

Try and avoid the use of the word educate. You confuse it with disinformation and agitprop.
Was he refuting water as a decontaminant AFTER the video of Canadian troops using water to decontaminate as part of their official and routine military decontamination ops?

Maybe he was from a different Canada to the one that's North of the USA, a Canada none of us except him are aware of.
 
Oh dear, look at these poor devils using water, if only they had asked @184461 what to use, after all a man who doesn't even know what his own (stated) former service use to decontaminate must be an expert ;)

 
As a thought, maybe the use of water to decontaminate is too modern an idea for @184461 to grasp. He seems remarkably slow to catch on to factual matters.

Maybe films from as recent as this 1942 training film are a bit too modern for the dullard to have caught up on!!
Perhaps using water 77 years ago is just a bit too recent for him to understand yet..........maybe he needs more time!

 
Was he refuting water as a decontaminant AFTER the video of Canadian troops using water to decontaminate as part of their official and routine military decontamination ops?
He used the idea of an acid in addition to water as a decontamination agent. When the flaws in his non argument were shown, he pointed out that arrse opinion was not acceptable and real experts should comment. I then pointed out to him that he was talking about schoolboy chemistry where an expert opinion was not necessary. He then tried to turn the argument around in his usual Worm tongue way.

In short, nothing to see apart from the usual lies and manipulations to suit his agenda.
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
He used the idea of an acid in addition to water as a decontamination agent.
Are you sure that was me?
Are you sure, as per the accompanying article, it wasn't Prof. Uglev (one of the head-honchos of the proj?)

'The research was dangerous, with no known antidote from the Novichok strain.
Just a few milligrams — the weight of a snowflake — were enough to kill a person within minutes.

Uglev recalled a terrifying moment when he accidentally dropped a tiny amount of a Novichok-class agent on his hand.

“I rinsed my hands with sulfuric acid and then put them under tap water,” he said, adding it was the only way to survive.'


The men behind the Cold War poison that surfaced in a quiet English town

You can either read my posts or ignore them, up to you.
In short, nothing to see apart from the usual lies and manipulations to suit his agenda.
But don't try and twist what I post as you'll only look dull as all the reported-information is posted (with links)
a couple of pages back.

Go on then - what evidence shows that nobody was poisoned?
Really?
I haven't addressed why I think that?
Go back 10 pages and go forward.
Read the thread.
 
Are you sure that was me?
In quoting Uglev, yes.

Your twisting of words have no meaning to me. People can read back if they wish and see what I wrote. Your utter ignorance is a sight to behold. It is you who want an expert to quote schoolboy Chemistry.

I think lies and manipulation well sums up what you present. Oh. And pig ignorance, you belter.
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
In quoting Uglev, yes.

Your twisting of words have no meaning to me. People can read back if they wish and see what I wrote. Your utter ignorance is a sight to behold. It is you who want an expert to quote schoolboy Chemistry.

I think lies and manipulation well sums up what you present. Oh. And pig ignorance, you belter.
So you weren't directly and intentionally misquoting me and saying that I started the duty rumour about having to use sulfuric acid and copious amounts of water in order to survive an apparent A-234 exposure?

He used the idea of an acid in addition to water as a decontamination agent. When the flaws in his non argument were shown, he pointed out that arrse opinion was not acceptable and real experts should comment. I then pointed out to him that he was talking about schoolboy chemistry where an expert opinion was not necessary. He then tried to turn the argument around in his usual Worm tongue way.

In short, nothing to see apart from the usual lies and manipulations to suit his agenda.
Glad we cleared that up.
Phew.
 
Is it time for a quick summary of events for those catching up :)

@184461 knows more about English law than English lawyers.
@184461 knows more about the evidence than the CPS.
@184461 knows more about CRBN procedures than Porton Down, the NHS and UK CRBN specialists.
@184461 knows about the NHS hospital treatment despite detailed medical care plans not having been released.
@184461 knows more about the coroners findings than the coroner.
@184461 knows the travel itinerary of the suspects despite the full details not having been released.
@184461 told us there was NO video footage of the suspects AFTER many of us had watched video footage of the suspects.....maybe he can time travel.
@184461 knows how fast Novichock works despite never having handled it or been exposed to it, or been trained in its use......he must be super clever.
@184461 knew that no one had died despite also mentioning the coroners report regarding the person who died! Go figure.
@184461 says D notices were issued to hide the facts......see note about time travel above, it must be how he can have read a type of notice not issued for many years prior to the attack.

There are so many things @184461 knows, he must be very very clever, which of course would make readers wonder why he has been constantly asking questions for during the last 11 months..........why is he asking questions if he has the answers?

Oops, forgot to add:
@184461 is so super clever that he never feels the need to provide real evidence for his claims.

He did back up a claim once that a British TV show had been axed over a row regarding a special show on the Salisbury incident. He showed proof that the BBC had axed the show as it showed flaws in the British case.
Sadly for those ordinary viewers unable to time travel like @184461 can we had to simply accept the show he said was cancelled after the incident had been axed the year before the incident so couldn't have been axed after it.
If only we could time travel like @184461 then we could have watched the last episode of Crimewatch shown in 2017 after March 2018 like @184461 must have.
 
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I couldn't resist mentioning Crimewatch as it was hilarious to see @184461 post a link to a spoof article about the show, then let him mention it a few times as 'proof' even though UK posters knew the show had finished some time before the 'obvious spoof' (but not obvious to @184461), and that the spoof content was so obviously fake to U.K. Viewers.

It was funny for posters to discuss (away from the open forum) his continuing assertions that the link was real and then when he realised he had been completely caught out even more amusing to see him back peddle and pretend he had been joking all along.
 
So you weren't directly and intentionally misquoting me and saying that I started the duty rumour about having to use sulfuric acid and copious amounts of water in order to survive an apparent A-234 exposure?
No. I wasn't. I leave that sort of thing to you . You are very bad at it but if it excites you, what's not to like.

Ever use a wombat?
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
Your paranoia knows no bounds.

Have you been hacked recently?
It's called sniffing out stories that are obviously BS and fabricated to sway public opinion against l'enemi du jour.

It's only a matter of time before the whole Skripal-myth is exposed.
Similar to how the BBC's Syria producer just stated this about Douma (also anti-Russian linked propaganda)

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My bet is it'll happen well before ukgov show anyone their 'evidence and proof 'against the state they blamed as soon as the event happened.

Even though no investigation had even started and no evidence or proof had been shared.

All together now...."Baaaa Baaaaa Baaaaaa".
 
Your paranoia knows no bounds.

Have you been hacked recently?
Did we ever get to the bottom of @184461's claim he had been hacked?

Not the very obvious actual reason he had issues for a while, but his made up pretend reason!

Would I be on the right track if I guess he didn't think it was Russia hacking him?
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
Well we got it straight from the horse’s, there are too many poor people in Russia according to Putin.

The Highlights of Putin’s Federal Assembly Address

And there’s me nearly believing @Grey Fox who said there weren’t any.
No. I said, that Russia have 13% of population as "poor" (by Russian standarts), and the UK have 20% (by British standarts). And Russian standarts of the life quality are significally higher.
 

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