News story: Novichok nerve agent use in Salisbury: UK government response

"Grey Fox, post: 9104677, member: 155341"]Life is expansion. And yes, independent England was a threat to Russia, Underseptic England is a threat to Russia. The threat have to be eliminated. May be, Russian England will be loyal enough to save best examples of the English culture.
What a strange world you live in.

You must be paranoid. Seeing enemies where there aren't any.

AlexOb1975 at yahoo.com
Nah, it's OK. See it as my contribution to good deeds for the intellectually challenged.
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
Did someone say Russia is liberal and free?

Those pesky journalists. No need for D Notices, just beat them up.

Russian Journalist Attacked After Investigation into Local Official — Reports
First - "after something" does not mean "because of something";
Second - he said, that he wrote about corruption many years, and he was beaten only now;
Third - it is Tuapse, place much more safe than, for example, Hackney, but you can easily be beaten here without being editor, too.
Fourth - he said, that his nose was broken, but look at photo - his face is clean, no sign of haemotamas, and he already leave the hospital.

I very doubt that it was result of his work.
 
First - "after something" does not mean "because of something";
Second - he said, that he wrote about corruption many years, and he was beaten only now;
Third - it is Tuapse, place much more safe than, for example, Hackney, but you can easily be beaten here without being editor, too.
Fourth - he said, that his nose was broken, but look at photo - his face is clean, no sign of haemotamas, and he already leave the hospital.

I very doubt that it was result of his work.
That's right, none of the beatings and killings of journalists in Russia is anything to do with their work.
 
All the more reason to apply it as a perfume eh?
You are actually mentally-processing what you're typing aren't you?


1) Find a package of something somewhere.
2) It says perfume on the package but it doesn't smell at all and feels very oily to the touch?
3) Afterwards the best possible course of action is to let your bird spray it on as a scent and see what occurs.
Now we get closer to why you posted an old tweet about the daily mail

Daily Mail posts an article, in which they say the perfume didn’t smell of perfume but had an odd aroma like ammonia
So the internet experts call bullshit from that statement .... because according to them novochock doesn’t smell

Charlie has stated that there wasn’t a smell
He could mean precisely that, and it matches the ‘experts’ and conspiracy theorists at the time. Therefore on that basis it would add up that it was novichock

But then you chip in that it must all be false because why would Charlie give dawn perfume that doesn’t smell?
Because he found it sealed and then when he opened and assembled it then it was too late
He could wash it off, but only rinsing away what is on his hands and not totally decontaminated. Therefore he ends up in hospital

Dawn tries it - but Charlie hasn’t stopped her screaming “Don’t do it, it doesn’t smell right, it must be novichock, run away”

Maybe it smelled of amonia maybe it didn’t, the guilty and the investigators know
The alledged suspects defence lawyers can ask that question


Why would a perfume bottle or novichock not smell of perfume? Perhaps because it wasn’t intended to be used as fake perfume but just a method of carrying and delivering it

We can either find out in court or we can wait until there has been no court case but it becomes a piece of history - perhaps in our old age, perhaps after our lifetimes


However there is the fact that Dawn Sturgess has died as a result of being given a perfume bottle that contained novichock and in an inquest hearing (which remains incomplete) it has been confirmed that Dawn was affected by novichock
The cause of death has not yet been given, it will take time - one of the criteria for delay is the murder investigation on Dawns death.
 
List of journalists killed in Russia - Wikipedia
Media freedom in Russia - Wikipedia


A relevant Wiki article with methodology to remove normal beatings and killings.

A relevant Wiki article concerning the degree of media freedom in Russia.

For both, sources are listed.


As a nation, you have made your choices or had them made for you. Good luck when they come for you. You don't appear to have a lot of freedom for and I think you will soon have a lack of freedom from.
 
Who many journalist were beaten in the UK?
You silly arrse! Ironically, on some listings of journalists murdered in the UK, Georgi Markov, poisoned by Russia, gets a mention.
Nice try at deflection though. Using "beaten in the UK" rather than "murdered by the state in Russia".

In fact, I'm being sarcastic you dozy pratt. It wasn't a nice try. It was your usual amateurish attempt to make Russia sound like a modern democracy instead of the third world dictatorship that it actually is. Russia could give lessons to Africa.

Bring on the next idiot.
 
What a strange world you live in.

You must be paranoid. Seeing enemies where there aren't any.



Nah, it's OK. See it as my contribution to good deeds for the intellectually challenged.
Can you remember when he said that he had visited England, but that we shouldn't ask what he was doing here...............

Perhaps that was because he is just far too dumb to remember :)
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
Would @184461 mind answering the question about why the uk is less free and liberal than Ru?
What you actually mean is would 118118 mind getting away from the crux of the matter and deflect the thread somewhere else.
Isn't it?

Seriously if you can't spot that the UK is heading down a very dark hole, never to return, those rose-coloured specs are doing their job too well.

Rather than go into specific cases I'll just let some sources sum it up for you.
Easier and quicker for me.

2014- Britain could drift towards a police state, says one of Britain’s

2016- The UK's ‘national security’ plan? It's a blueprint for a police state

2016- Personal data, privacy and the totalitarian state | Letters

2018- UK mass surveillance programme violates human rights, European court rules

When did I say that Russia or any other 'first world country' was any better?
Remind me.

I'm still waiting to find out why those nice people at ukgov have still not imposed a single Magnitsky sanction despite the UK being seen as the Russia money laundering capital of the world.

Moscow's Gold: Russian Corruption in the UK - Foreign Affairs Committee - House of Commons

And why haven't the US imposed the Russia sanctions agreed-on in the wake of the Skripal 'poisoning'?

U.S. has not imposed new Russia sanctions sparked by Skripal poisoning

As usual there are 2 conflicting sides here.
What they've told us to believe and what the actual legal reality of the situation is.
Hence why the irrefutable, concrete proof is still being sat on 12 mths after the event.

And why the incessant, constant lying from ukgov/media is nothing to be concerned about.


If they don't want you to know then you won't.

Just keep believing....It was the Russians. It was the Russians. It was the Russians.........................................
That's exactly what they need you to believe so don't disappoint them.

Right now this is what's happening in that TAOR.

US tanks on move for biggest EVER WW3 drills as Trump squares up to Putin’s war machine
British forces to step up Arctic deployment to protect Nato's northern flank from Russia
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Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
You silly arrse! Ironically, on some listings of journalists murdered in the UK, Georgi Markov, poisoned by Russia, gets a mention.
Nice try at deflection though. Using "beaten in the UK" rather than "murdered by the state in Russia".

In fact, I'm being sarcastic you dozy pratt. It wasn't a nice try. It was your usual amateurish attempt to make Russia sound like a modern democracy instead of the third world dictatorship that it actually is. Russia could give lessons to Africa.

Bring on the next idiot.
Ha-ha-ha. Thats what I mean, telling about British hypocrisy. There are no even a list of a punched British journalists. A punch in a journalist face in Russian far from center town, is a reason to write an article in a Moscow newspaper, because it is extraordinary case. A punching or even murder of a British journalist is often and usual practice, that should not be written as something special. Do the UK have special organisation that gather info about attacks against journalists? No. So, it is just a problem of the low-quality British statistic, nothing more.
 
What you actually mean is would 118118 mind getting away from the crux of the matter and deflect the thread somewhere else.
Isn't it?
No. Don't mean that at all. I asked you this a day or so ago when you were pontificating the issue in reply to a grey fox post. You failed to answer twice. I pointed out the flaw about your use of the magic Sulphuric Acid words despite it being schoolboy Chemistry you wanted a recognised expert. That is because you have absolutely no knowledge of Science. Not deflection then.

Rather than go into specific cases I'll just let some sources sum it up for you.
Easier and quicker for me.

Lots of could and would there. There always has been . Judges rules, PACE, all hailed as the end of freedom. The point is that the normal checks and balances will win out. We will be a police state when they don't. We aren't. Express an opinion of your own as to how the police state is forming and how at the moment, the things you imply are being done re the Skripal case . You do believe it was false flag, do you not?

Russia has gone further along this route than we
When did I say that Russia or any other 'first world country' was any better?
Remind me.
You imply it constantly. You believe this matter is a put up operation by the UK government. If it were so, this country would be considerably less free than Russia. Or am I to take your snide insinuations as such only when you want me to to be convinced of your truth seeking.

The rest of your post is merely wibble. As I have explained to the real KGB resident, action begets reaction and geo political facts are just that, facts. I would suggest that the various manifestations of KGB would agree with me in that matter at least.

Lastly, who the heck do you think THEY are? Please tell me.

If they don't want you to know then you won't.
This latter might give me some insight into why you back everything coming from Russia without any question and not one iota of information provided by UK authorities.
 
No. So, it is just a problem of the low-quality British statistic, nothing more.
If you want to believe that, that is fine. Maybe have a look at the sources I linked. Remember linked articles are at the bottom of the sources.

I have a suspicion that our murder rate is a bit lower than in Russia , mind. Factor of ten adjusted would be my guess.

That doesn't include people who accdentaly shoot themselves in the back of the head or fall from ground floor windows and break their necks.
 
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Anyway, considering you are well into nuclear exchange videos and hard man Russia stronk type stuff, any videos on three headed kids and very very special children born after Chernobyl?

The radioactive isotopes of Iodine are particularly nice for someone into war porn, I would imagine.
 

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