News story: New offshore patrol vessels for Royal Navy

They've been toying with the idea for a while with the current ships but keep running into the obvious problems that they'd be sending a commerical ship into dangerous waters and that they're obligated to keep them in British waters to do Fish.

And I wouldn't fit a sonar to the bugges. they're steel and lots of it.

Incidentally, anyone at DSEi this year could have had a tour of a very fine OPV that the Dutch are using. Well designed, simply and efficiently equipped, lean-manned and with lots of extra space to play with. I wonder if anyone in the RN got a tour...

Holland class Offshore Patrol Vessel OPV P840 HNLMS Zeeland P841 Friesland P842 Groningen P843 Royal Netherlands Navy Dutch Koninklijke Marine Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding DSNS datasheet pictures photos video specifications
But are they going to continue to do fish? Like I said ive heard rumours that DEFRA wont continue the contract.

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Who will do fishery protection instead?
 

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But are they going to continue to do fish? Like I said ive heard rumours that DEFRA wont continue the contract.

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That'll be interesting. A lot of naval personnel will be very happy and the longest continuous naval tasking will end. I hope DEFRA can fund the 4 ships and people it needs from the money it saves. And I'll be interested in how they'll conduct the armed boardings and EEZ protection that the RN provide.

Perhaps there's a business opportunity for an enterprising defence specialist with access to a shipyard and a contact book full of retired naval people.
 
What will make up the fleet for protection of home waters if they do? HMS RIB ?


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Like it or not it looks to me as though we are heading towards corvettes, sloops, call them what you will. Most of the tasking that frigates and destroyers carryout Is beneath them it's like sending a range rover to do the work of a transit van. The problems arise when politicians do the reverse and expect a transit to go where a range rover can.
Wiser and more experienced posters on here may know better but personally I would wack a 3" or even a 4.5" on them as well as an auto 40mm plus manpads but keep them away from any big nasty rockets and subs.
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New offshore patrol vessels for Royal Navy

Hang on if there are "new" in the same way that those RAF Rivet Joint are "new" then they will probably look a bit like:


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"…Corvettes, big enough to get themselves into trouble, not big enough to get themselves out of it…"

Depends who puts them where. Post war we had lots of very good ASW corvettes and sloops that had to be scrapped for one reason. Speed. To fill the gap we converted a fair few destroyers at not an inconsiderable sum to replace them. mostly with less Anti air and surface armament and bigger crews than were needed.
 

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So to recap:

1. Three new OPVs are being built for the RN
2. Nobody knows if they will replace the current ones or be in addition to them
3. Nobody has any clear idea regarding their roles
 
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"Under the terms of a business agreement signed with BAE Systems in 2009, MOD would have been liable to pay for any periods when no shipbuilding was taking place at UK yards." Talk about having your cake and eating it - BAE seems to run rings round the MoD.
 
So to recap:

1. Three new OPVs are being built for the RN
2. Nobody knows if they will replace the current ones or be in addition to them
3. Nobody in the centre of MoD Maritime excellence that is Arrse has any clear idea regarding their roles

Minor edit - unaccustomed as I am to supporting the MoD decision-making or procurement process :)
 
"Under the terms of a business agreement signed with BAE Systems in 2009, MOD would have been liable to pay for any periods when no shipbuilding was taking place at UK yards." Talk about having your cake and eating it - BAE seems to run rings round the MoD.

The MOD wants BAE's shipyards to stay open even when they're not building ships, how else are BAE supposed to pay their workers?
 

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"Under the terms of a business agreement signed with BAE Systems in 2009, MOD would have been liable to pay for any periods when no shipbuilding was taking place at UK yards." Talk about having your cake and eating it - BAE seems to run rings round the MoD.

Not rreally - more like BAES being compensated for the politicians desire to build the new carriers more slowly.
 
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