News story: Bridge installation a milestone for UK carrier build

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Ministry of Defence said:
During a visit to Rosyth shipyard, Mr Hammond oversaw the 700-tonne section being lifted into place on the deck of HMS Queen Elizabeth.
Nearly two thirds of the ship has now been built and the structure is due to be completed by the end of this year. The carrier is then expected to leave the dockyard in 2014 before beginning sea trials with the Royal Navy.
The forward island, fitted today, houses the bridge where the captain and navigation crew will operate. The enormous steel section was built in Portsmouth and transported by barge to Fife, where the carriers are being assembled. Both HMS Queen Elizabeth and her sister ship, HMS Prince of Wales, will have 2 island sections which will provide independent control of navigation and air traffic control operations.
Timelapse video of the bridge of the Queen Elizabeth carrier being put into position
The construction and assembly of the Royal Navy’s carriers is one of the UK’s biggest engineering projects. Work on the carriers in Scotland is worth around £1.3 billion and more than 2,000 staff working on the ships in Rosyth.
Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said:
The addition of the navigation bridge is a significant milestone for HMS Queen Elizabeth, which is now entering the final months of her construction. The workforce at Rosyth should be proud of their involvement in developing the largest and most technologically advanced warships the UK has ever had.
The Queen Elizabeth Class of carriers will be in service for up to 50 years, providing the Royal Navy with highly versatile and potent capability that will enable the UK to project its power and carry out a wide range of tasks around the world. Our operational Lightning II Jets are due to arrive in 2016, a year before the HMS Queen Elizabeth sea trials, and the first flights off her deck will start in 2018.
When construction work on HMS Queen Elizabeth is completed, the blocks of HMS Prince of Wales, which are being built at shipyards across the UK, will begin to be assembled at the dockyard at Rosyth.
In a speech in Edinburgh earlier in the day Mr Hammond outlined the commitment to the UK Defence footprint in Scotland outlined in last week’s basing plan.
This plan demonstrates our continuing commitment to Scotland and to the UK Defence footprint in Scotland,” he said. “In fact, military posts in Scotland are set to be at their highest level since 2007 and Scotland will be home to one of the UK’s 3 main naval bases; our entire submarine fleet; one of its 3 main fast jet operating bases; as well as one of the Army’s Adaptable Force brigades.
These are clear signs of our commitment to Scotland’s continued role in UK Defence and they provide certainty to our Armed Forces personnel, their families and the communities in which they will be based.


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Errr it all looks very small to me. I was thinking something more well aircraft carrier like and not another through deck cruiser/ mini carrier
 
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R_C how about these images?
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Errr it all looks very small to me. I was thinking something more well aircraft carrier like and not another through deck cruiser/ mini carrier
I see that you are not exactly au fait with the government's revolutionary and inexpensive through deck trawler design......!
 
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Well when you see these US carriers...... Not expecting anything that big but looking at the pictures, the ship does seem small. I am using the various people in the dry dock to get an idea of scale and depth.

I remember seeing a US Amphibious Assault Ship and even that seems to dwarf our carrier though wiki tells me they are only 40,000tons
 
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Our operational Lightning II Jets are due to arrive in 2016, a year before the HMS Queen Elizabeth sea trials, and the first flights off her deck will start in 2018.
So we've actually ordered how many again?





Errr it all looks very small to me. I was thinking something more well aircraft carrier like and not another through deck cruiser/ mini carrier
Izzaverybeeg…



… but please ignore all the planes drawn on deck. It's fitted for, but not with, planes and cats and traps obviously.
 
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So we've actually ordered how many again?







Izzaverybeeg…



… but please ignore all the planes drawn on deck. It's fitted for, but not with, planes and cats and traps obviously.
Not forgetting the Nimitz class has now finished, to be replaced by the Ford class.......which is even bigger.

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Not forgetting the Nimitz class has now finished, to be replaced by the Ford class.......which is even bigger.

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Actually, that's a very interesting photograph.
US CVN's have about then same deck area as CVF, and the Ford Class CVN is shown carrying the same number of planes as our mighty carriers Air Wing will consist of.
It's going to be a very empty deck on CVF.
 
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Actually, that's a very interesting photograph.
US CVN's have about then same deck area as CVF, and the Ford Class CVN is shown carrying the same number of planes as our mighty carriers Air Wing will consist of.
It's going to be a very empty deck on CVF.
Do you think they change the F18 to F35 ratio depending on the current thinking? Or do they just accept what they are getting.
 
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It's going to be a very empty deck on CVF.
Perhaps that is just as well, since the issue of maintaining fixed wing relevent skills for future deck crews et al has not been resolved, with a grand total of eight chockheads on exchange, then they return to the UK and will have no means to practise and maintain those skills.

The First Sea Lord was right to be concerned about the skills issue. So was the Officer quoted by the Telegraph, and many others. See What the First Sea Lord said.... (ARRSE) and the PPRuNe Harrier thread.

The politicians could so easily take a few measures, which would hardly break the bank, to produce a sensible and logical plan that addresses the issues of giving UK based fixed wing WAFUs something to fly and giving the crews of HM Ships Illustrious and Queen Elizabeth the opportunity to practise recovering, handling, launching, and operating with STOVL aircraft.
 
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Perhaps that is just as well, since the issue of maintaining fixed wing relevent skills for future deck crews et al has not been resolved, with a grand total of eight chockheads on exchange, then they return to the UK and will have no means to practise and maintain those skills.

The First Sea Lord was right to be concerned about the skills issue. So was the Officer quoted by the Telegraph, and many others. See What the First Sea Lord said.... (ARRSE) and the PPRuNe Harrier thread.

The politicians could so easily take a few measures, which would hardly break the bank, to produce a sensible and logical plan that addresses the issues of giving UK based fixed wing WAFUs something to fly and giving the crews of HM Ships Illustrious and Queen Elizabeth the opportunity to practise recovering, handling, launching, and operating with STOVL aircraft.
All we need is aircraft, we have a dummy deck at yeovilton / Culdrose and both Illustrious and RFA Argus are capable of landing and launching STOVAL aircraft (albeit Argus can only do vertical launches).


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Yes. After all the Culdrose dummy deck cannot simulate the ship's movement or sea conditions. The RN will not allow you to qualify as a GPMG aimer without having fired it at sea, so surely the same principle applies.

The second island is on the way - the one that will contain FLYCO etc: Queen Elizabeth’s second island rolled out as carrier nears outward completion

Hopefully those looking at the deck from FLYCO will not see accidents caused by skills being allowed to fade away.
 
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Yokel - you do realise that the RN is well aware of the skills fade issue and that the plan is being dealt with. Just because 1SL has not written to you personally outlining the plan doesnt mean that they aren't dealing with it.

Seriously, just let it go.
 

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