NEWS FLASH! TERROR SUSPECTS RELEASED!

#2
CheekieNorthernMonkie said:
Them two from last week just been released without charge.... let the compo claim begin!

Inteligence lead policing my ARRSE!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5066166.stm

Anyone can make a mistake, and I would rather that the authorities erred on the side of caution. Compensation is, however, totally appropriate if they have been wrongfully arrested, shot, house trashed, names dragged through the mud etc.

And a sincere apology too.

PB
 
#3
I wonder if Cressida Dick was the unfortunate involved in this debacle. More money from the public coffers will be winging it's way to these two.

Int is power. Try it Met 8)


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#4
Its starting to be a credibility thing. If these two are innoent, then the Int and Sy elements are incompetant, or have been wah'ed big time.

Having said that. I'll happily fork out for 99 of these being wrong, if the 100th one stops an outrage.
 
#5
So what if you assess that there is a 5% chance of a chemical device at an address, do you not go in because you're worried about compensation? Balls - they had no choice.
 
#6
Lasalle, I totally agree.

You have to go and check these things out.

Luckily, no one was killed, the damage can be repaired and doubtless the injured bloke will get a payout, which is fair in this case, if nothing is found to connect him to terrorism.

I'll just remind all those who were calling for Op KRATOS about this, next time there is a similar incident and their bloodlust for those of other faiths and colours is raised.
 
#8
Lasalle said:
So what if you assess that there is a 5% chance of a chemical device at an address, do you not go in because you're worried about compensation? Balls - they had no choice.
Totally agree.

I hear they always wanted their floorboards sanded.

Once they are put back in place.
 
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#10
To quote what a metropoloitan police spokesman was supposed to have said when questioned on the int source for this fiasco " IT CAME FROM A HUMAN SOURCE"
 
#11
I suspect the police would get far more sympathy for a difficult decision if it had not been for the lies over WMDs and Iraq, as well as the evasion and spin over the De Menezes shooting and the heavy-handed policing used against anti-Bliar demonstrators (70-odd cops taken off the street to take down a banner in Parliament Square; no cops dispatched to a violent incident in South London that resulted in the fatal stabbing of a schoolboy).

Trust in the police is comprehensively undermined by a widespread (and understandable) presumption that the State routinely lies, no matter how grave the situation. Add to this the refusal for a public inquiry into the Underground bombings and the shameless exercise of power in suppressing protest and the perception that suppressing protest is more important than protecting life. Finally, confidence in the competence of the apparatus of State has been blown away by the recent Home Office debacles.

The only way this perception would be lessened is if the 2 Bliars had resigned over the WMD debacle and the misinformation over the De Menezes c0ck-up. However, the retention of perks and power is now more important than duty to one's country and accepting responsibility.
 
#12
PassingBells said:
CheekieNorthernMonkie said:
Them two from last week just been released without charge.... let the compo claim begin!

Inteligence lead policing my ARRSE!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5066166.stm

Anyone can make a mistake, and I would rather that the authorities erred on the side of caution. Compensation is, however, totally appropriate if they have been wrongfully arrested, shot, house trashed, names dragged through the mud etc.

And a sincere apology too.

PB

Errr Compensation? Why?

For starters people are arrested daily 'on suspicion' of various offences in order for them to be investigated, they receive no compenstation so why should these muppets?

For their names being dragged through the mud? Dont think theyre overly bothered by that, theyre heroes in the Forest Gate muslim community now.

As for getting shot, well we still dont know what happened. If he was shot by 'mistake' ie an ND, then yes Comp is most definitely justified, but if he was shot as a perceived threat, then the Firearms officer's action was wholly correct.

So Fcuk em
 
#13
I suppose it will be called Forest Gate Gate.

I bet the house still looks better than if Lawrence 'Lou Ellen' Bowen had got his hands on it.
 
#14
hogspawn said:
PassingBells said:
CheekieNorthernMonkie said:
Them two from last week just been released without charge.... let the compo claim begin!

Inteligence lead policing my ARRSE!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5066166.stm

Anyone can make a mistake, and I would rather that the authorities erred on the side of caution. Compensation is, however, totally appropriate if they have been wrongfully arrested, shot, house trashed, names dragged through the mud etc.

And a sincere apology too.

PB

Errr Compensation? Why?

For starters people are arrested daily 'on suspicion' of various offences in order for them to be investigated, they receive no compenstation so why should these muppets?

For their names being dragged through the mud? Dont think theyre overly bothered by that, theyre heroes in the Forest Gate muslim community now.

As for getting shot, well we still dont know what happened. If he was shot by 'mistake' ie an ND, then yes Comp is most definitely justified, but if he was shot as a perceived threat, then the Firearms officer's action was wholly correct.

So Fcuk em
What would your response be if armed police stormed in to your home, threatened your family and did the equivalent makeover on your house? This one was performed like an armed robbery. I imagine you'd whinge for some sort of recompense.




Your claim that they're muppets only serves to indicate the contrary - i.e. YOU are the muppet. If the only weapons you have access to are an intelligent interpretation of the facts and sharpness of wit, then we can all breathe a sigh of relief, because you're pretty much firing blanks.
 
#15
hogspawn said:
PassingBells said:
CheekieNorthernMonkie said:
Them two from last week just been released without charge.... let the compo claim begin!

Inteligence lead policing my ARRSE!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5066166.stm

Anyone can make a mistake, and I would rather that the authorities erred on the side of caution. Compensation is, however, totally appropriate if they have been wrongfully arrested, shot, house trashed, names dragged through the mud etc.

And a sincere apology too.

PB

Errr Compensation? Why?

For starters people are arrested daily 'on suspicion' of various offences in order for them to be investigated, they receive no compenstation so why should these muppets?

For their names being dragged through the mud? Dont think theyre overly bothered by that, theyre heroes in the Forest Gate muslim community now.

As for getting shot, well we still dont know what happened. If he was shot by 'mistake' ie an ND, then yes Comp is most definitely justified, but if he was shot as a perceived threat, then the Firearms officer's action was wholly correct.

So Fcuk em
What is going to stop it happening to you next time? Oh, you're not brown? Lucky you.

What's the latest excuse for shooting the guy (and I think we're on the 4th or 5th now)? I couldn't feel the trigger through the glove? I'm sorry, was he carrying an Olympic competition pistol on the raid? Hands up all those who have ever worn NBC gloves who believes a word of that bollox?
 
#16
If the cops stormed my house and shot and injured me (or someone in my family) I would want to screw them for every single penny I could and see those responsible for the error thrown out of their jobs. And I count myself a reasonable person!
 
#17
MrPVRd said:
If the cops stormed my house and shot and injured me (or someone in my family) I would want to screw them for every single penny I could and see those responsible for the error thrown out of their jobs. And I count myself a reasonable person!
Can't argue with that but what worries me is, will there come a time when the police do not respond as they might, for fear of massive law suits if they've got it wrong. Of course it would never be admitted but it could happen.

I'm sure Forest Gate Gate is going to cost them bigtime not just in compensation but that canteen wagon has been burning and turning for over a week. That's a few bacon rolls less to spend on normal policing.
 
#19
One problem here is the use of so-called police intelligence.I had an experience with Dorset police some years ago,where their 'intelligence' ,in a particular matter,seemed to have been gleaned from misc informers'touts,and was not corroborated by any other piece of information,and thus graded.Often touts have scores to settle and make up information,as many on this board will know.The response from Mr Plod(a Bramshill grad!)was 'what do you know!!'
 
#20
This happened down my neck of the woods a couple of years ago. The chap was apparently pissed up and armed with a single shot .22 air rifle, why several coppers armed with MP5s couldn`t gain entry and disarm him I don`t know, they wouldn`t even let his dad in to talk to him, just left him to sleep it off...error of judgement by the copper in charge? :?:
 

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