newly qualified ODP,what rank?

#1
at the moment starting training to gain ODP qualifications.Was wondering what rank goes with that reg/t.a.spoke to my local med unit t.a.as i know some of them ,i wasn't holding out much hope for a informed response.can anybody offer a sensible input (WIBBLE).
 
#2
Regular Army

If you are a Pte then you will do your training as a Pte although there is the possibility of being promoted to LCpl during the course.

If you are a LCpl then you will remain a LCpl until the end of the course, then you go into the pot with everyone else and depends on recommendations and pen picture write ups.

If you are a Cpl, you will be reduced to LCpl for duration of the course (although remain on Cpl pay), at the end of the course you will go into the promotions pot with everyone else. Your pay will revert to LCpl pay, but will go up to the higher payband.

If youre a Sgt the same applies as if you were a Cpl.

But plans are afoot to bring us in line with the rest of the 21st Century and allow Cpls to retain their rank upon transfer.
 
#3
But plans are afoot to bring us in line with the rest of the 21st Century and allow Cpls to retain their rank upon transfer.
That policy was written about 18 months ago. Done. Sorted.
 
#4
Great stuff, is the policy actually in force now? Isnt it dependant on manning vacancies? ie if a trainee retains their Cpl does that take up a qualified ODP Cpl slot in the trades manning?
 
#5
Policy is in force now and I suspect it is dependant on vacancies, etc. As for your other question, I dunno guv. Perhaps a whey-faced mandarin from AMS MCM Div can help you on that one?
 
#6
Thank you, there you go Bampot, the info you asked for without a single piece of pish taking (so far)
 
#7
You mean you understood the original question from Captain Grammar? I ignored that mangled piece of English and just responded to you!
 
#8
I have 3 young cousins who are into text speak, I just asked them to translate what he'd dribbled above.
 
#10
Sky-Monkey said:
You mean you understood the original question from Captain Grammar? I ignored that mangled piece of English and just responded to you!
Hugs and kisses to all.May your next shite have pine cones in it.
 
#11
About time the ODPs leaving training were on the same playing field as the nurses just out of uni. Don't agree with throwing rank at anyone but until they sort out a way of paying more than the rank can receive then it is about the only way.
 
#12
primroseandblue said:
About time the ODPs leaving training were on the same playing field as the nurses just out of uni. Don't agree with throwing rank at anyone but until they sort out a way of paying more than the rank can receive then it is about the only way.
the hierarchy are looking at changing that possibly, as it causes as many problems giving someone with nil military experience and three years in uni two tapes
 
#13
most ODPs have re-traded and have spent a fair amount of time in the army already, unlike the majority of nurses who are straight from civvie street. Who should have the tapes?
 
#14
IMHO - they should have at least one on qualification, then 12 months probation before they get their second - if they are good enough
 
#15
I agree
 
#16
Bedpan2zero said:
primroseandblue said:
About time the ODPs leaving training were on the same playing field as the nurses just out of uni. Don't agree with throwing rank at anyone but until they sort out a way of paying more than the rank can receive then it is about the only way.
the hierarchy are looking at changing that possibly, as it causes as many problems giving someone with nil military experience and three years in uni two tapes
I am a cmt 1,who's scunnered by the near extinction of the cmt,and have decided to jump ship(damm the man's eyes) and i'm t.a,(so that makes me twice as detestable).I'm doing it at uni for two years and getting a job with the local health board after it.I have experience as full screw.Hopefully that will be enough.
 
#18
..."remember, this is a vocation and not just a job"..................

......when you are pulling this little pink cheeks East and West..................

"THIS IS A VOCATION, NOT JUST A JOB!,THIS IS A VOCATION, NOT JUST A JOB!,THIS IS A VOCATION, NOT JUST A JOB!,THIS IS A VOCATION, NOT JUST A JOB!,THIS IS A VOCATION, NOT JUST A JOB!,"

:? You gotta purty mouth boy
 
#19
bampot said:
Sky-Monkey said:
You mean you understood the original question from Captain Grammar? I ignored that mangled piece of English and just responded to you!
Hugs and kisses to all.May your next shite have pine cones in it.
Oh my aching sides. You are truly the Lord of Humour and ruthless, savage, rapier-like wit.
 
#20
bampot said:
Bedpan2zero said:
primroseandblue said:
About time the ODPs leaving training were on the same playing field as the nurses just out of uni. Don't agree with throwing rank at anyone but until they sort out a way of paying more than the rank can receive then it is about the only way.
the hierarchy are looking at changing that possibly, as it causes as many problems giving someone with nil military experience and three years in uni two tapes
I am a cmt 1,who's scunnered by the near extinction of the cmt,and have decided to jump ship(damm the man's eyes) and i'm t.a,(so that makes me twice as detestable).I'm doing it at uni for two years and getting a job with the local health board after it.I have experience as full screw.Hopefully that will be enough.
I see what you mean. Every case should be taken on its merits. FF is right about more ODPs having military experience than nurses. I was a lance jack retread when I did nurse trainng and was knocking on the door of full screw in my old corps when I transfered but I don't think I deserved two tapes just for passing my dip HE as I had no experience as a qualified nurse at corporal level (ie running a group of 8 bods). The cash was deserved though.
 

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