New Zealand... to emigrate and work?

#1
Mrs O2 and me are looking into a life in NZ and was wondering if any ARRSE'ers have any personal experience or knowledge of NZ? Maybe snippets of useful info that you've heard from others?

Websites paint a perfect picture but I'm keen to learn about harsh realities, like, does Tony Blair plan to live there after Downing St, go into NZ politics and run for Priminister!

Many thanks.

O2
 
#2
I went to NZ between September and December to see what it was like,with a view of getting a job, to be honest I was really disapointed. but it depends what your after. If your looking at moving there perm not coming back to the UK then maybe but the wages are crap even for the cost of living over there. There isnt much infrastructure and jobs are few and far between.
My favourite places were Queenstown, Havelock (next to Picton when you get off the ferry on the South Island), Wellington and Christchurch.
Its a beautifull country just very quite and not much going on.
If you need any more info feel free to PM me, I travelled both islands by car and there wasnt many places I didnt go to.
Apologies for spelling and grammer but hungover and not that bothered

Cheers
DISCOS
 
#3
Brother in Law has been there for 3 years now and loves the place. As Disco pointed out wages aren't much cop and depending on you skill set jobs can be few and far between.
The brother in law's trek started in a major city on North Island for around 12 Months before chucking that job and moving out into the sticks. He works part time for a telecoms company and runs his own IT consultancy the remainder of the time. He lives mortgage free thanks to his 22 year lump sum. From his emails it has been no bed of roses for him and the family, but at the end of the day he feels more Kiwi than Brit now and has no intention of ever returning to the UK.
 
#4
Thanks DISCOS, thanks Baldrick66. I appreciate the offer to PM you DISCOS, I will take you up on that once I have a couple of decent, more personal questions.

Wifeoid and me have learned that NZ has a high drugs and youth problem and that 1 in 5 people have been the target of crime. Car theft being common. I was surprised by all this. I wonder how you feel about your feeling of well being and safety? Someone takes my old car I can live with that. Someone breaks into my house and I would not be comfortable.... nor would the breaker inner but that's not the point!

Regarding not a lot going on... that's suits me fine! I'd adapt to the outdoor life and so would my kids!

Thanks once again.

O2
 
#5
O2

Suggest that if you haven't got it already, you get a copy of " Living and working in New Zealand" by Joy Muirhead.

It is excellent reading, v informative and gives you a great deal of web site links.
 
#6
in_the_cheapseats said:
O2

Suggest that if you haven't got it already, you get a copy of " Living and working in New Zealand" by Joy Muirhead.

It is excellent reading, v informative and gives you a great deal of web site links.
Hahaha! Wife tells me we have it! She didn't tell me! Thanks ITC. :thumleft:

O2
 
#7
One useful snippet of information is that less people return after emergrating to NZ than any other country. Oh and I wouldn't worry to much on the drugs and teenage crime front. Once you start reading up on it a major teenage drugs ring down there is four lads sharing a spliff on a saturday night. Ok not quite but its still far removed Moss Side or St Pauls.
 
#8
Harsh reality No 1 is Helen Clark. But then most Kiwis don't really care about her as they live here in Oz. Nice place to visit, lots of scenery etc.
 
#9
DEEFER said:
Harsh reality No 1 is Helen Clark. But then most Kiwis don't really care about her as they live here in Oz. Nice place to visit, lots of scenery etc.
Helen Clark? Who is she? (My guess either a Kiwi Myra Hindley or UKs Maggie Thatcher... so much the same I 'spose!)
 
#11
Ref the crime drug problem etc, the only places I saw anything like that was Rotorua and Taupo, the really big touristy places.
The south Island people still dont have locks on their doors etc and are really friendly, the bigger places like Auckland and Wellington are the hotspots, but I never felt threatend once.
The only hassle I had was grief about rugby, and that was off a South Afican!!
Oh and if you like your fishing, Picton and Kerikeri/Pahia (northlands) highly recommended. Taupo is good but really touristy.
For anything a bit mad, Queenstown is the place, I did the Nevis bungy but they have everything down there, touristy but an amazing place. Good on the piss to
 
#12
O2thief
check her out under wikepedia , viz "controversies" She is the Cherie Blair of the southern hemisphere, a labour leftie (and a left handed thread ?) a complete and utter politician in fact. But apart from that, NZ is a nice place to visit. If you are serious about migrating, try Oz or Canada.
 
#13
DEEFER said:
O2thief
check her out under wikepedia , viz "controversies" She is the Cherie Blair of the southern hemisphere, a labour leftie (and a left handed thread ?) a complete and utter politician in fact. But apart from that, NZ is a nice place to visit. If you are serious about migrating, try Oz or Canada.
Thanks DEEFER. I can't imagine anyone else being as bad as Cherie Blair! Yes, we've thought about Vancouver Island, Canada and also Tazmania. Googling as we speak!
 
#14
O2

I take it you are in early discussions about a move?
 
#15
in_the_cheapseats said:
O2

I take it you are in early discussions about a move?
Yes, we have been tottering about with the thought for about three years but never really got down to planning. 'Tinternet makes life easier that's for sure. At one point we were going back to England because the houses looked quite well priced compared to NI!

We appreciate that it could take quite a long time to get out 'there' (where ever that will be) with paperwork etc. but have considered this and are in no panic just yet!
 
#16
Hi O2Thief,

I lived and worked in NZ (South Island) some years ago - it was fab and I wish I could've stayed there (work permit ran out)

It's a great place to live and to be honest, I can't see the crime rate and drug problem being as bad as the UK. I shared a place with up to three other people and we regularly left the place unlocked all day whilst at work,.... we never arrived home to an 'empty' house!

There's a very laid back approach to life over there and things come to a halt at midday on a Saturday so everybody can go to the rugby! (tough luck if you like to go shopping on a Saturday afternoon!)

I found a job pretty easily albeit it a seasonal one (or two) and the people I worked with were wonderful (apart from one or two).

The scenery is stunning, absolutely breathtaking,... I lived near the beach but the countryside was accessible within thirty minutes. Fantastic too!

Don't allow anybody to put you off, if it's what you really want.

However, having been to the Algarve, I now think that would be my choice of place to live!


BG :biggrin:
 
#17
O2 Thief
Not tassie. They filmed "Deliverence" there for a very good reason ! They are all related. There nothing there but apples and its always cold.
 
#18
I dont have any personal experience but recently the trucking mags here are reporting a severe HGV driver shortage in NZ so this may give you an opening if you have an HGV licence.
 
#19
My tuppence worth after living in OZ and NZ over the last 26 years.
If you're heading down under to settle, my advice is to try OZ first, there's tons of work in SE Queensland, or you could try the mines, great money but feck all nightlife, miles from nowhere etc. So, you save the dosh you make in OZ and buy a nice little gaff in Kiwiland and after a few years you can retire mortgage free in one of the worlds best lifestyles.
Sure the wages are pathetic in NZ but it's all relative, petrol is about a third of the UK pump price, jap import cars are dirt cheap, we've got a loony lefty/greeny gubbmint but the average Kiwi doesn't give a rats as long as the Tui flows and there's rugby or cricket to watch.
I live in a hick town on the east coast of the north island, I can leave my windows open all day while I'm out, there's a world class trout river 5 mins away, skiing two hours up the road, surf beaches half an hours drive and about 30 wineries within 50 miles. Remember to avoid Auckland, it's pants.

Basically if you have kids etc and want a better life head to OZ, save your pennies then retire to NZ, there's even some that commute between the two places.

Once you have NZ or OZ citizenship you can move freely between the two countries
 
#20
Pling said:
I dont have any personal experience but recently the trucking mags here are reporting a severe HGV driver shortage in NZ so this may give you an opening if you have an HGV licence.
Big shortages in OZ as well, but you'll probably get home once a fortnight doing linehaul, if you're single go for it :thumright:
 
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