New "yellow card" law for pubs

#1
From BBC

Problem pubs face 'yellow card'

The drinks industry says it is already paying enough
Ministers have rejected calls for a compulsory upfront levy on pub operators to pay for extra police.
Instead problem pubs could get a 'yellow card,' an eight week warning to clean up their act before being billed.

People with three on-the-spot fines for drink-related offences could also be banned from pubs in designated areas.

The moves come as the government attempts to calm fears of an explosion in drink-fuelled disorder when pubs move to 24-hour opening in the autumn.

Bar staff

The new rules, announced earlier on Friday, will apply in designated Alcohol Disorder Zones, where problems have been reported with drunken behaviour.

Those pubs and bars which attract the sort of people who ruin it for everyone else should definitely contribute

Sarah, Birmingham UK


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People with three on-the-spot fines or convictions for drink-related offences will be banned from pubs and bars in specified areas for a fixed time, under new Drinking Banning Orders.

Children who attempt to buy alcohol will also face on the spot fines, as will bar staff who serve drunks.

Police and trading standards officers will be given the power to ban premises from selling alcohol for 24 hours where there is evidence they are persistently selling to under 18s.

'Megapubs'

Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell said: "Our current licensing laws are creaking under the strain. "That's why we are reforming them - to make our towns and cities safe for all, not a free for all.

"The steps we are proposing today support the tough measures in the Licensing Act 2003.

"They send out a clear message - we will not tolerate the disorder and anti-social behaviour that blights our towns and city centres."

Under the new licensing regime, which comes into force in November, "megapubs" in town or city centres will pay £2,955 for their initial licence.

Licence cost hike

Under the new rules bigger pubs will pay more towards the cost of the new licensing regime.

Pub groups, who expected a voluntary charge, say they already have to pay more for police in the form of taxes.

A rise in the cost of a licence to sell alcohol is also to be introduced with pubs, bars and clubs banded according to a new fee structure that is expected to cost high-turnover city centre premises the most.

Under the new system the largest city or town centre pubs will pay a £1,905 initial application fee and an annual fee of £1,050 to the local authority - before it was £30 every three years to the magistrates to serve alcohol until 11pm at night regardless of venue size.

No-go areas?

The Association of Chief Police Officers had backed calls for a compulsory levy on the drinks trade to pay for extra policing hours.

Shadow home secretary David Davis the government should listen to "thousands" of police officers who wanted the new regime halted.

"With many of our towns and cities already no-go areas on Friday and Saturday nights, pressing ahead with plans to allow pubs and clubs to open 24 hours a day would be irresponsible," he said.

But a spokesman for the Department of Culture said: "Graduated closing times will help to reduce binge drinking and cut the anti-social behaviour which accompanies it."

The "three strikes" law, ie "People with three on-the-spot fines or convictions for drink-related offences will be banned from pubs and bars in specified areas for a fixed time, under new Drinking Banning Orders." It seems to me that this would be realistically impossible to enforce. The police police are stretched enough on a friday and saturday night and simply do not have the time to be chasing these people whilst druken fuelled assaults and criminal damage and other crimes are taking place.
 
#2
Shadow home secretary David Davis the government should listen to "thousands" of police officers who wanted the new regime halted.

"With many of our towns and cities already no-go areas on Friday and Saturday nights, pressing ahead with plans to allow pubs and clubs to open 24 hours a day would be irresponsible," he said.
When was the last time that dick went out to a town center on a sat night? Torys and even more nanny state tatics, Are they trying to win the blue rinse Vote?
 
#3
Why is it three strikes? That's a baseball/spam thing. If it's Yellow Cards then it should two cards and you serve a three pub ban. Perhaps if you grandslam in the meat wagon that would be a straight red and a 5 pub ban?
 

Ventress

LE
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#4
They use the yellow card system in my police area, the local chavs like it cos they just laugh at the local police! We dont use them and they end up in custody!

How we chuckle when they ask for their yellow card! Sorry Sir we only use the Red one!
 

Goatman

ADC
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#5
Cpl_ripper said:
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