New weight restrictions for entry???

#1
Hi guys,

I'm hoping Iron or someone else whose an expert in recruitment can help me with this one.

I went to ADSC in January and got reffered to a Army specialist who cleared me as medically fit for service. Now I've been told that I'm being defferred because of my weight?

In January at ADSC my weight was over the ideal for my height but the caliper test showed that I didn't have too much body fat. The nurse at the time said she couldn't realisiticly ask me to loose any more weight as i'm heavy due to my build.

What has changed in the rules since January? because even my recruiting sergeant didn't know about any changes.

Also what if anything can I do about this deferral as there is no real chance of me getting to the weight ADSC has specified without causeing myself harm.

Many thanks.

Jimmy
 
#4
jesus and you passed ADSC,decent run,pulls ups etc?? the reasons people are getting knocked back now are bloody ridiculous. Dont do yourself harm and loose your mass to an extent it make you weak or ill, withoout doing this realistically their is no way other than to appeal mate.

Cal :(
 
#5
I do the run in 10:45. Strength and so on not an issue.

I'm 86Kg's and 15% body fat so only 12Kg's of my whole body is fat.

ADSC have said my weight is unacceptable and I need to be a maximum of 78Kg's.

To get to that weight I'll have to get down to a body fat % of 6.5% which is very low! Just 1.5% more than the bare minimum the body should have.

The PT instructor at my gym has said he thinks that weight will be unobtainable without making myself sick. I really wan't this so I'm going to try anyway!

Why does the army not recognise the fact that people vary?

Ridiculous really, Well since geting this news I'm on a diet of rabbit food with tuna or chicken breast as a treat. I'm still running everyday but it's hard without the calories. Wish me luck I'm going for it if I don't make it there's always the legion! lol!
 
#6
this is what im worried about got selection end of april im 6ft and 92kg but can do the run in ten minutes 3 pull ups and passed jerry can run but still worried about them deferring me for my weight
 
#7
Jimmy1880 said:
I do the run in 10:45. Strength and so on not an issue.

I'm 86Kg's and 15% body fat so only 12Kg's of my whole body is fat.

ADSC have said my weight is unacceptable and I need to be a maximum of 78Kg's.

To get to that weight I'll have to get down to a body fat % of 6.5% which is very low! Just 1.5% more than the bare minimum the body should have.

The PT instructor at my gym has said he thinks that weight will be unobtainable without making myself sick. I really wan't this so I'm going to try anyway!

Why does the army not recognise the fact that people vary?

Ridiculous really, Well since geting this news I'm on a diet of rabbit food with tuna or chicken breast as a treat. I'm still running everyday but it's hard without the calories. Wish me luck I'm going for it if I don't make it there's always the legion! lol!
FFS, the Army should know better than this! If you can pass all the physical tests, your weight/BMI should not be an issue. For a start, about half the English Rugby team who won the World Cup were "clinically obese"! 8O

Sorry to read this, mate; you're being treated like sh1t and I would'nt blame you if you walked away from the Army now. If you are determined to try and lose the weight, good luck. But like Callum said, don't risk your health for it. :evil:

I'd give serious thought to checking out the other Services and finding out what their weight restrictions are.

Best of luck.
 
#8
this is bullcrap i got my selection on 14th april and im 6 foot 2 and 96kg. 13% bodyfat, bloody hope i dont get defferred for this reason!
 
#11
Jimmy1880 said:
To get to that weight I'll have to get down to a body fat % of 6.5% which is very low! Just 1.5% more than the bare minimum the body should have.
It does not work like that mate, because when you lose weight you lose a mixture of muscle and fat, its near impossible for anyone to get to 6.5% body fat, even if you lost 20kg you wouldn't be 6.5% body fat, because you lose muscle and fat.

If you want to lose the weight, I would suggest a low carbohydrate diet for a short period of time, before you are going to be weighed you should cut carbs and water, loss of water and glycogen can sometimes help you lose up to 5kg of weight without actually losing it.

Good luck
 
#13
The only "new weight restriction" I'm aware of, is the revised upper BMI limit of 32 rather than the old 28. But even that goes back a few years.
In essence, there is a maximum allowable weight, which is relative to your height.
A BMI of 32 corresponds to the following heights and weights.

5' 6" 14st 2lb
5' 7" 14st 8lb
5' 8" 15st
5' 9" 15st 6lb
5'10" 15st 13lb
5'11" 16st 5lb
6' 0" 16st 12lb
6' 1" 17st 4lb
6' 2" 17st 11lb
6' 3" 18st 4lb
6' 4" 18st 11lb
6' 5" 19st 4lb
6' 6" 19st 11lb

If you exceed these new limits, you are either overly muscular or massively overweight.
 
#15
Why don't we have a "passing in" standard and a passing out standard?

Doesn't matter what your weight, etc is. Just pass the basic requirement. And then if you don't make the grade by a set point, you get back squaded or put in to a "Hunter Troop".

No point turning away otherwise good blokes.
 
#16
sandmanfez said:
The only "new weight restriction" I'm aware of, is the revised upper BMI limit of 32 rather than the old 28. But even that goes back a few years.
In essence, there is a maximum allowable weight, which is relative to your height.
A BMI of 32 corresponds to the following heights and weights.

5' 6" 14st 2lb
5' 7" 14st 8lb
5' 8" 15st
5' 9" 15st 6lb
5'10" 15st 13lb
5'11" 16st 5lb
6' 0" 16st 12lb
6' 1" 17st 4lb
6' 2" 17st 11lb
6' 3" 18st 4lb
6' 4" 18st 11lb
6' 5" 19st 4lb
6' 6" 19st 11lb

If you exceed these new limits, you are either overly muscular or massively overweight.
I recall my medical for the Regiment. I'm in the 6' 5" range, and also am big on playing rugby. When I went for my medical I was roughly around 15st 15st 5lb or there abouts. For my particular build and interest in sports, I'm actually underweight in comparison to those I play against. However, with the introduction of the fecking BMI, I was considered the right weight, but only just.

BMI is one of the bloody stupid things the health farmers brought in. It only takes into account total mass, not a muscle to fat ratio.

As for the table you have set out above, I'm not sure that may be correct now, as 15st at 6' 5", your table suggests that I have four stone to play with
 
#17
Mechanic45 said:
sandmanfez said:
The only "new weight restriction" I'm aware of, is the revised upper BMI limit of 32 rather than the old 28. But even that goes back a few years.
In essence, there is a maximum allowable weight, which is relative to your height.
A BMI of 32 corresponds to the following heights and weights.

5' 6" 14st 2lb
5' 7" 14st 8lb
5' 8" 15st
5' 9" 15st 6lb
5'10" 15st 13lb
5'11" 16st 5lb
6' 0" 16st 12lb
6' 1" 17st 4lb
6' 2" 17st 11lb
6' 3" 18st 4lb
6' 4" 18st 11lb
6' 5" 19st 4lb
6' 6" 19st 11lb

If you exceed these new limits, you are either overly muscular or massively overweight.
I recall my medical for the Regiment. I'm in the 6' 5" range, and also am big on playing rugby. When I went for my medical I was roughly around 15st 15st 5lb or there abouts. For my particular build and interest in sports, I'm actually underweight in comparison to those I play against. However, with the introduction of the fecking BMI, I was considered the right weight, but only just.

BMI is one of the bloody stupid things the health farmers brought in. It only takes into account total mass, not a muscle to fat ratio.

As for the table you have set out above, I'm not sure that may be correct now, as 15st at 6' 5", your table suggests that I have four stone to play with
You're well out of date Lurch, those figures are right on the money.
 
#18
I had the same problem.

I am 5' 11" and was 101KG at my first ADSC. I have played Rugby for years. I was told to lose 9kg. I ended up losing alot of body mass, muscle and what they called fat.

The BMI should be used as a guide only.

Anyways. Best of luck mate. Stick it out.
 
#19
reading this im worried i don't weigh enough! :D

5 11'' and 12.5 stone

how the hell can you bulk up when you have to run so much to train for the MSFT.

currently running mile n half in 9.20 without slaughtering myself.

i can't eat anymore! :lol:
 

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