New RY Cap Badge

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benjaminw1

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#1
In my Old Fogey Spotter mode I noticed in the Torygraph that a reception has been held for the "new" capbadge.

Any links to pics and/or reasons for this?

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#2
First I have heard of such a reception. But then, why tell me?

At least I had heard about the capbadge!

Could you please provide chapter and verse from the Torygraph?
 
#3
Well, it's always nice to be in the loop.

The new cap badge is being foisted on the RY because the last colonel, may he rot in his own excrement, decided that he would set the ball in motion in his last couple of months of his abysmal command. :evil:

I have not met a single person who is in favour apart from a few officers who have spent their whole career skipping from one squadron to another.

The regiment was formed in 1967 so, apart from Telic, we only have the Squadron identities and that is very much what we bind to. (as you might have noticed from my previous threads).

Yet again, it is an example of those at the top not understanding what makes people stay in a unit.

With their usual excellence in managment, the hierarchy have not shown the new cap badge officially to the ORs, certainly in our squadron.

Can anyone tell me what the positive side of having a single cap badge is, especially when our regiment is geographically spread from Swindon to Leciester with very little crossposting, apart from it being a bit cheaper for the army to bulk buy them?
 
#4
WTF is that?? :evil:

A b...dy RY cypher would have been better.

I'm going to go off into a corner and sob now.

edit to say, there was a pic of a badge there a minute ago!
 
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Dr_Evil said:
First I have heard of such a reception. But then, why tell me?

At least I had heard about the capbadge!

Could you please provide chapter and verse from the Torygraph?
Court & Social (to which I turn to first, natch)

"RICHMOND PARK
November 3rd

Princess Alexandra, Royal Honourary Colonel, The Royal Yeomanry, this evening attended a Reception at the Cavalry and Guaaards Club, 127 Picadilly, Londom W1, to commemorate the new Regimental Cap Badge"

Pip pip
 
#6
Purple_Emperor said:
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a) The new cap badge is being foisted on the RY because the last colonel, may he rot in his own excrement, decided that he would set the ball in motion in his last couple of months of his abysmal command. :evil:

b) I have not met a single person who is in favour apart from a few officers who have spent their whole career skipping from one squadron to another.

c) Yet again, it is an example of those at the top not understanding what makes people stay in a unit.
a) He was defintely the worst one yet, and just in for his own self-aggrandisement, the new CO is a blast of fresh air.

b) Unfortunately those offrs are typical within the RY and are very much 'yes men'.

c) Have they ever understood us or given a sh*t what we thought.
 
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Purple_Emperor said:
WTF is that?? :evil:

A b...dy RY cypher would have been better.

I'm going to go off into a corner and sob now.

edit to say, there was a pic of a badge there a minute ago!
Was it here, did it break OPSEC !!

Give us a description.

Go on, go on go on go on, go on, go on, GO ON!
 
#8
Here it is again, so long as you promise not to tell anyone about it. You ain't seen me, right?
 

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I have not seen the Torygraph, so I cant comment on what has been displayed.

However here is the rational behind the new cap badge.

The Regt is likely to be awarded the Battle honour "Iraq" for the service provided by the majority of the members of the Regt from 2003 onwards.

In order to display the battle honour we need an RY Guidon, and to have a Guidon you need a capbadge.

We will retain our Sqn identities via Collar dogs and stable belts. The capbadge will be worn on berets only, so is restricted to the field only.

I love my Squadron and am proud of our history over the last 211 years, but I am even prouder of what we the current members of the Regt have done since 2003. We have been a single Regt for 38 years, and it is time to start writing our own history.

As far as being a "yes man, I belive that anyone who knows me would not agree".
 
#14
Right.

I have now been informed by my sources.

Our new cap badge is a crown on top of 2 interlocked 'A's. :?

You at this point are probably thinking the same as me 'Are the RY turning into an 'Anti - Aircraft' battery or something.

No, dear reader. Someone, presumably arrse licking in the hopes of getting something in the New Years honours list, has decided that because our Royal Hon Col is Princess Alexandra we should use her cypher!

What f**k muppet came up with that idea??!!

The whole point of a regiment is that it is timeless. I have nothing against Princess Alexandra, she seems a lovely lady when I’ve met her, but we ain’t her personal troops (unless they are thinking of changing the regimental name as well… :roll: ).

In a few years time, she will sadly pass away, at which point do we switch our badge to match whoever takes over? Before her death the Queen Mother was our Royal Hon Col. In a few year’s time it will be someone else. We are honoured to have them carry out the role, but they aren’t the be all and end all of the regiment.

Apparently it hasnt been approved by the army yet.

Please take this plea, those on the army dress committee, if you are reading this. Don't make us wear this!!
 
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yeoman said:
However here is the rational behind the new cap badge.

The Regt is likely to be awarded the Battle honour "Iraq" for the service provided by the majority of the members of the Regt from 2003 onwards.

In order to display the battle honour we need an RY Guidon, and to have a Guidon you need a capbadge.

We will retain our Sqn identities via Collar dogs and stable belts. The capbadge will be worn on berets only, so is restricted to the field only.

I love my Squadron and am proud of our history over the last 211 years, but I am even prouder of what we the current members of the Regt have done since 2003. We have been a single Regt for 38 years, and it is time to start writing our own history.

As far as being a "yes man, I belive that anyone who knows me would not agree".
I have to say, and let the flaming begin, that I agree with you. Except about the bit about you not being a yes man.

*ducks*

"Corporate identity" = inadequate reason; "Our own history" = good reason

What's the score with squadron/regimental berets?
 
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yeoman said:
...However here is the rational behind the new cap badge.

The Regt is likely to be awarded the Battle honour "Iraq" for the service provided by the majority of the members of the Regt from 2003 onwards.

In order to display the battle honour we need an RY Guidon, and to have a Guidon you need a capbadge.

.......

As far as being a "yes man, I belive that anyone who knows me would not agree".
When the last CO raised the issue, he clearly stated that the reason for the cap badge was 'strong' pressure (goodness knows it was'nt from us) to have one cap badge, it was a blatant falsehood, he just wanted to leave his mark. He should have spent more time on post Telic recruitment and retention and the really important issues to the Rgt.

FFS They even screwed up the desert t-shirts issued pre Telic 1 deployment not to mention our first TRF which has now been corrected.

If you are who I think you are, you may be one of the exceptions :)
 
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benjaminw1

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yeoman said:
I have not seen the Torygraph, so I cant comment on what has been displayed.

However here is the rational behind the new cap badge.

The Regt is likely to be awarded the Battle honour "Iraq" for the service provided by the majority of the members of the Regt from 2003 onwards.

In order to display the battle honour we need an RY Guidon, and to have a Guidon you need a capbadge.

We will retain our Sqn identities via Collar dogs and stable belts. The capbadge will be worn on berets only, so is restricted to the field only.

I love my Squadron and am proud of our history over the last 211 years, but I am even prouder of what we the current members of the Regt have done since 2003. We have been a single Regt for 38 years, and it is time to start writing our own history.

As far as being a "yes man, I belive that anyone who knows me would not agree".
No you don't need a capbadge to have a guidon.

Why can't the new battle honour be awarded to each Sqn and carried on each Sqn Guidon?

Collar dogs? How often is 2 dress worn?

Since 1967 the Regimental ethos of all Yeomanry Regts has been at Sqn level, the RY Sqn/Regt make up has changed 3 times since then with Sqns moving in and out.

Golden threads old chap and

Retention, Retention, Retention.


Pants idea
 
#19
Even with a common capbadge, squadron identity within the regiment will be undiminished. But the RY's "public" face will make more sense to those who meet us, military and civilian.

*fiddles with bump on back of neck*

*pulls out lump of circuitry attached to what looks like a slug*

Hey, what's this?
 
#20
Quote: "Even with a common capbadge, squadron identity within the regiment will be undiminished. But the RY's "public" face will make more sense to those who meet us, military and civilian."

Now you know what I mean by 'yes men'. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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