New Regt Formed 1Apr05: 335 Medical Transfer Regiment (V)

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I'd like to invite members of ARRSE to celebrate the formation of a new Regiment. On 31 Mar 05 the Ambulance Train Group (Volunteers) (ATG) will cease to exist and in its place on 1 Apr 05 335 Medical Transfer Regiment (Volunteers) will come into being.

The ATG, and its predecessors, used to man the Hospital Trains in Germany.

335 will provide clinicians to man Ambulances where a casualty requires medical attention on the move. A bit like Aeromed Evac, but on the ground.

ATG is, and 335 will be, a specialist AMS TA unit working out of CVHQ at HQ 2 Med Bde.
 
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I'd like to invite members of ARRSE to celebrate the formation of a new Regiment. On 31 Mar 05 the Ambulance Train Group (Volunteers) (ATG) will cease to exist and in its place on 1 Apr 05 335 Medical Transfer Regiment (Volunteers) will come into being.
Is this an early april fool?
 

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D-L, Aside from whether its in good taste to mock somebody else's unit, I think you've got the point. Ambulance Trains probably are an oudmoded concept - thats why the unit has been re-formed as a Medical Transfer Regiment.

C-M the Top Hat and Tails have been withdrawn - becuase the Train has gone.
 
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Dont we have CCAST for this type of thing?
 

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CCAST: Critical Care in the Air Support Team: Role of the Medical Transfer Regiment is to provide the clinicians who provide the critical care or HD care on the ground. Same sort of thing, but not flying. And no we don't have that dedicated capabilty at the moment, its always had to be done on an ad-hoc basis before.
 
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sknn said:
D-L, Aside from whether its in good taste to mock somebody else's unit, I think you've got the point. Ambulance Trains probably are an oudmoded concept - thats why the unit has been re-formed as a Medical Transfer Regiment.
As being one of the Medical types, I am in the true belief that we should mock ourselves before mocking others, and as the AMS is one big joke.....I have never got anywhere near mocking other Corps yet. One day the AMS will sort itself out and then I can go forth and mock the rest of the Army :wink:

However how and in what context are we talking transfer??
 

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Doh! Doh! and double Doh! What an arrse am I? The name of the Regiment is 335 Medical Evacuation Regiment (Volunteers) - not transfer.
 
#13
Should we be moving all critically ill patients by air….generally yes….BUT civilian practice suggest not always… only the RAF medical service thinks otherwise!!! Can the UK plc afford to move by air all High Dependency casualties during large scale deliberate intervention operations? No. Can yer average MO, CMT or RGN remove the most critically ill patients over long distances by road? No. Solution: Create a specialist capability in the TA to undertake this task.
 
#14
Good idea in theory but plagued by the one big thing.....how much will it cost? Who will staff it? What mixes of trades/quals?

we are struggling to cope with what we have at present. On paper the TA looks viable but as we saw on telic and are continuing to see on Telic, this doesn't hapen on the ground.

Another glossy coat of paint to a crumbling building :roll:
 
#15
In Iraq last year, while the uprisings were on, we had no trouble CCASTing our casualties. Helo to airhead and then CCAST flight either to Kuwait or UK depending on severity of the injury.

Had a brilliant presentation fom the head of CCAST last week, very informative.
In this day and age of air superiority if not supremacy, and the increased use in helicopters for evac from point of wounding to R2 (life saving surgery) R3 (life, limb and eye saving surgery) and even R4, do we really need a load of dustmen parading as CMTs in Casey Jones hats, stranded at the APOD/SPOD with their choo choo's as there are no tracks to run them on?
 

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"do we really need a load of dustmen parading as CMTs in Casey Jones hats, stranded at the APOD/SPOD with their choo choo's as there are no tracks to run them on?" FF these remarks are in poor taste and frankly below you.

DL, The reason forforming a Med Evac Regt is that in the past the role has been done on an ad hoc basis and its felt that a formed unit that 'own' the skills is needed. I do have my reservations about this being wholly TA. My view is that a number of clinicians from DeMTA should be shadow appointed to the Regt and trained appropiatly.
 
#18
Sounds good if its a mixture of reg and TA, but as I have stated earlier....where are we going to get the personnel from? We are struggling as it is :roll:
 
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sknn said:
FF these remarks are in poor taste and frankly below you.
you mean that this isnt a wind up thread and we really are moving forward in a backward direction by about 60 years?
good to see that the AMS, instead of advancing itself and the possibility of forming an 'Air Ambulance Sqn' is actually going back to an ambulance train!! Thank god that all of the countries that weve been involved with over the last 25 years (Falklands, Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Angola, Kuwait and Iraq) have all had a working rail network which has been compatable with our pre-WW2 ambulance trains because as post Op reports have shown, we have needed it! :roll:
 
#20
My informant in the Ivory Tower tells me that 335 Med Evac Regt has been formed out of the Ambulance Train Group (ATG). This is an apparently well recruited unit, especially with senior clinical staff - some of whom have just completed advanced civ trg in medical transfer techniques. It will form teams of Specialists who can move casualties on..."any available platform - land sea or air anywhere in the evac chain". It will look to recruit civilains with the appropriate civilain qualifications - dustmen and train spotters need not apply - a Regular element has not been ruled out.
 
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