new pft

#2
Have heard about this from my SI!! I am pissed off I can tell you!! As I look forward to my 50th Birthday and the fact I would no loger need to attempt PT we are informed that the new one takes in all ages!!! B/stards!!!!
 
#4
The_Honest_Man said:
Have heard about this from my SI!! I am pissed off I can tell you!! As I look forward to my 50th Birthday and the fact I would no loger need to attempt PT we are informed that the new one takes in all ages!!! B/stards!!!!
The over-50s have had to undertake the BPFA and the bleep test for as long as I've been over 50! You just get more time..., but not enough to turn it into a nice, brisk walk!

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#5
According to my Q man from the PTI corps there is going to be a new database for a PFT, the test itself won't change.
 
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#6
littlenickoutthere said:
pti has informed us of a new pft coming in. Anyone know of this?
They should go back to the old one. 20 minute run whilst still shit-faced from the night before and 15 minutes to smoke a packet of Bennies at the end.

We used to do have to do it in f*cking boots as well. It was a right b&stard.
 
#7
littlenickoutthere said:
pti has informed us of a new pft coming in. Anyone know of this?
it will become an assessment not a test.
 
#8
Litotes said:
The_Honest_Man said:
Have heard about this from my SI!! I am pissed off I can tell you!! As I look forward to my 50th Birthday and the fact I would no loger need to attempt PT we are informed that the new one takes in all ages!!! B/stards!!!!
The over-50s have had to undertake the BPFA and the bleep test for as long as I've been over 50! You just get more time..., but not enough to turn it into a nice, brisk walk!

Litotes
From the MATTS documentation policy statement

15. Personnel Aged 50 - 65
a. PFT. Participation in the PFT programme is voluntary for those aged 50-65.
Participation is seen as a reflection of leadership and a personal commitment to a culture of physical fitness.
b. CFT & CFT (TA). Individuals aged between 50-65 are exempt and should only attempt the CFT for Operational reasons. Such attempts must follow the completion of an appropriate and progressive programme of PT.
 
#10
stacker1 said:
According to my Q man from the PTI corps there is going to be a new database for a PFT, the test itself won't change.
That's going to be a pain in the arrse. The standard MATT2 database works off access (not linked to an online system), and unless the Unit keeps hard copies (how many actually do?), then migrating the data to the new system is going to be time consuming as hell. Or maybe they'll give everyone a free pass for the 6 months?

-Tango
 
#11
I've heard it will go back to being a Squadded mile and an half followed by best individual effort mile and half again. All to be done in boots. Apparently the PFT is not a true representation of fitness required on operations.
 
#12
Bowside said:
I've heard it will go back to being a Squadded mile and an half followed by best individual effort mile and half again. All to be done in boots. Apparently the PFT is not a true representation of fitness required on operations.
No sh1t sherlock! (aimed at the MOD, not you bowside :) ). FFS, I hope so. Us old and bold have long recognised that whilst we need to look after our delicate little tootsies, training must be a) relevant b) representitive to the task in hand. If you fight in boots, you need to train in them more than you do trainers. By all means improve cardio levels using trainers on SOME runs/ in the gym but to test if you can make an advance to contact in light order without arriving breathing through your ars€ requires the wearing of boots. IMO they should drop the BFT/ PFT and replace it with a march and shoot for all arms. Kills two birds with one stone 8) Discuss...
 
#14
That's a cracking idea Oldcolt. what about not knowing the route and you could get your tick in the box for map reading aswell. if this is done right we could get all the MATT's done in a day!
 
#15
Bowside said:
That's a cracking idea Oldcolt. what about not knowing the route and you could get your tick in the box for map reading aswell. if this is done right we could get all the MATT's done in a day!
I like, I like.....Hey...how about in an NBC/ CBRN suit healing casualties en-route? :D But,don't spread this idea around too much, we could earn a fortune as consultants to the MOD!!! :wink:
 
#17
oldcolt said:
Bowside said:
I've heard it will go back to being a Squadded mile and an half followed by best individual effort mile and half again. All to be done in boots. Apparently the PFT is not a true representation of fitness required on operations.
No sh1t sherlock! (aimed at the MOD, not you bowside :) ). FFS, I hope so. Us old and bold have long recognised that whilst we need to look after our delicate little tootsies, training must be a) relevant b) representitive to the task in hand. If you fight in boots, you need to train in them more than you do trainers. By all means improve cardio levels using trainers on SOME runs/ in the gym but to test if you can make an advance to contact in light order without arriving breathing through your ars€ requires the wearing of boots. IMO they should drop the BFT/ PFT and replace it with a march and shoot for all arms. Kills two birds with one stone 8) Discuss...
Wheels and circles. May I as as a now fat, unfit civvie suggest something like a 10 mile bash, 6 foot wall, 9 foot ditch, 100 yard carry of your oppo and his gat followed by if you don't hit the target with your gat then you fail.

Thanking you kindly for your attention I will now feck of before I am chased down and beaten to death with a wet bumroll.
 
#18
rickshaw-major said:
oldcolt said:
Bowside said:
I've heard it will go back to being a Squadded mile and an half followed by best individual effort mile and half again. All to be done in boots. Apparently the PFT is not a true representation of fitness required on operations.
No sh1t sherlock! (aimed at the MOD, not you bowside :) ). FFS, I hope so. Us old and bold have long recognised that whilst we need to look after our delicate little tootsies, training must be a) relevant b) representitive to the task in hand. If you fight in boots, you need to train in them more than you do trainers. By all means improve cardio levels using trainers on SOME runs/ in the gym but to test if you can make an advance to contact in light order without arriving breathing through your ars€ requires the wearing of boots. IMO they should drop the BFT/ PFT and replace it with a march and shoot for all arms. Kills two birds with one stone 8) Discuss...
Wheels and circles. May I as as a now fat, unfit civvie suggest something like a 10 mile bash, 6 foot wall, 9 foot ditch, 100 yard carry of your oppo and his gat followed by if you don't hit the target with your gat then you fail.

Thanking you kindly for your attention I will now feck of before I am chased down and beaten to death with a wet bumroll.
Tongue in cheek comment aside :D , I have no problem with that as a real test for the infantry, but maintain my point of a march and shoot for all arms. 3 miles in assault order carrying rifle and X no. of rounds, followed by a falling plate from 100 Metres, is a sensible, practical assessment of any soldier's ability to survive and function on a battlefield when, say, an HQ might be overrun/ about to be overrun and all hands need to turn too/ to?
 
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