New PC

#1
OK, I thought I would use my fellow arrsers researching capabilities. I am buying a brand new PC this week, no more upgrading for me, Mrs Geek has given me full permission to "get what I want". So my new baseline PC is shown below.
I am not after advice as to components, but would be intrested to know if people know of any site that can match the £1521 delivered price for the spec machine below. I may be willing to compromise in small areas, but generally speaking, what is below is my "minumum spec"

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™2 Quad Q6600 (4 X 2.40GHz) 1066MHz FSB/8MB L2 Cache

Memory (RAM)
4096 MB CORSAIR XMS2 800MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (4x1GB)

Motherboard
ASUS® P5K-E/WIFI: DDR2, SATAII, 2xPCI-e x16, 3 PCI, 2xPCI-e x1

Operating System
WINDOWS® VISTA Ultimate (inc. Genuine CD & License) (£119)

USB Options
8 x USB 2.0 PORTS (6 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
500GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7200rpm)

2nd Hard Disk
500GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7200rpm)

RAID (HDD 1 & 2)
NONE

1st CD/DVD Drive
20x DVD±RW/RAM/Dual Layer + Lightscribe (48 x CD-RW) (£16)

2nd CD/DVD Drive
16X DVD ROM WITH 48X CD ROM

Graphics Card
768MB GEFORCE 8800GTX PCI Express (Special Offer!)

2nd Graphics Card
NONE

Sound Card
Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeMusic 7.1: £48

Modem
NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 54Mbps WIFI (802.11g) & GIGABIT LAN (P5K-E only)

Floppy Disk Drive
1.44MB - 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive

Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (READS XD, MS, CF, SD, etc)

Case
Stylish Silver Aluminium Trigon Case + 2 Front/Side USB

Power Supply & Case Cooling
600W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)

Processor Cooling
ASUS SILENT KNIGHT II PURE COPPER ULTRA COOLER (£36)

Firewire & Video Editing
2 x IEEE 1394a FIREWIRE ONBOARD (1 in back + 1 on board)

TV Card
NONE

Monitor
WIDE 22 INCH TFT Silver/Black 1680 x1050 5MS D-Sub, DVI (£165)

2nd Monitor
NONE

DVI Cable
NONE

Keyboard & Mouse
Logitech® Cordless Keyboard & Rechargeable Mouse (Black/Silver) (£34)

Mouse
NONE

Speakers
NONE

Printer
NONE

Surge Protection
NONE

Webcam & VoIP
NONE

Media Center Kit
NONE

Anti-Virus
NONE

Office Software
NONE

Warranty
1 Year Return-to-Base incl 1st Month Free Collect & Return

Delivery
Standard Insured Delivery to UK Mainland (Mon-Fri 8am-6pm) (Free)

Quantity
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#2
... Rather a hefty system that, isn't it? Do you actually need all of that, or is it more a case of "I can get it, so I'm getting it!"? I mean, what the hell will you use the 1000GB space for??!
 
#3
Goon, yes you are partly right, it is a case of the wife has said "OK" so I am going the whole hog :D

But at the same time, the last time I brought a brand new system was 1994, since then I have upgraded component by component. So in some respects, I am getting the best I can now, with a view to not having to "upgrade" any part of it for at least 2 years (hopefully).

With regard to data. I currently have around 300Gb of data. Its quite easy to use space if you are into "lossless" music for example, and Film collections and assorted "torrents" etc. I also intend to implement (as much as possible) a Virtual CD/DVD system, whereby rather than having to insert CD's/DVD's into a drive to play a game, I have a CD image stored on the drive and load them as required, keeping the originals safe. I set a small version of this up on my daughters PC when I built it for her a few months ago and it works nicely. My grandkids play it a lot and never have to work about messing with CD's etc
 
#4
tangosix said:
Hello IT_GEEK,

I don't usually build systems which is a shame because I have most of the things you need sitting here sealed in their boxes.
At the moment I have nothing prebuilt to your specifications but I know some builders I could ask for a quote. tangosix.
Thanks tango, I would be intrested just out of curiosity, but at the same time, I would be dubious about buying a system from an unknown source. The above system is from a reputable supplier of many years experience. Advertised in multiple PC magazines, offering Lifetime Hardware support to a Local call number, Free Collect and return of system in event of problems etc. So aftercare is a factor also
 
#5
The_Goon said:
... Rather a hefty system that, isn't it? Do you actually need all of that, or is it more a case of "I can get it, so I'm getting it!"? I mean, what the hell will you use the 1000GB space for??!
Do a bit of home video and start editing it and saving various versions - 1000gb will soon fill up.....
 
#6
Whilst never having built one totally from scratch, I have at some point replaced every single component, so I suppose I could. But again I would be intrested to see what the total price of the items mentioned would be. TBH if its a matter of a tenner or 2 difference, I would be unwilling to loose the warranty of a prebuilt (all be it custom) for the sake of a few quid.

But as I said, if you are willing, I would,be intrested to know your prices on the above spec, noting of course the brand name items of the components
 
#7
I don't use the system I have to its maximum, i.e. I don't edit video, iTunes is my music player and, generally, supplier, and I'm too much off a numpty to figure out how to copy DVDs to my PC! :D
 
#10
Seedubs said:
Have you bumped her off m8!?? I cant see Mrs IT Geek letting you have that!!! lol

So who is that with? Dosnt seem like a bad price, I normally deal with the likes of:

http://www.meshcomputers.com/ (although I personnally have not used)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/home.aspx
http://www.scan.co.uk/
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/home/

Hope all is well, can I have your throw aways now then (that laptop will do!)
Hiya Seedubs :D
Have new credit card will travel, lol, Intrest free until next September.
At the moment I am getting it from
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/index.php

The old Alienware Laptop is still dojng me proud thx, but I am still working away from home and it is in permanent residence at my Work digs :D

** Stop Press ** Just heard about Directx 10.1, current graphics cards do not support the new Directx 10.1 specification recently announced by MS (B@stards!!)
 
#11
Just noticed you are not getting a DVI cable, is that because you already have one, or are choosing to just the VGA cable, better off with DVI?

I am looking for a cheap laptop in Jan for my resettlement course for 9 weeks, alienware may be a little above my finances!! lol
 
#12
Seedubs said:
Just noticed you are not getting a DVI cable
Well spotted, thx for that. The web site only saves your quotes for 5 days, and so I had to redo it this morning and missed the DVI cable, thx a lot :D
 
#14
I have a very close system to that. With a Q6600 and a GTX. Not had a problem with it. Make sure the motherboard has a onboard ethernet port. Yeah stupid but it can happen. Whats the O/S? 32 bit or 64? 64 has some bad driver problems but 32 cant use 4GB memory. Still i have a 32bit O/S and 4GB ram. Just you wont use over 0.5 of a GB.
 
#15
I have decied to go with the 32bit for now. I am aware of the 4Gb problem, but as you say, its still more than 2Gb and more is better.
 
#16
Theres a fix to make games use 3GB. can be found on the Nvidia site. It's going to be "fixed" properly in the next SP. Well whenever that is going to be released
 
#17
jaybee2786 said:
TRY buying components from http://www.scan.co.uk/
and build yourself
I decided to cost that out. I have to say I found a slightly different machine, similar spec but in my opinion some of the parts where better for the price. so here ya go:

Antec Case £70.14
Zalman psu £72.49
MSI Platinum motherboard £103.15
Q6600 CPU £175.65
Zalman Cooler £39.30
2x2Gb Memroy £169.95
seagate 500gb HD x 2 £180.70
LG Litescribe £18.79
MSI 880gtx £351.33
XFI Fatlity £89.17
Vista Ultimate 32bit £111.03
ASUS MW221 £215.48

Total SCAN.CO.UK Price = £1,597.18

The above components were an exact matchg to the system price below with the single exception of the memory, which yoyytech use OCZ and I could not find OCZ at scan.co.uk.

The total cost of this machine at www.yoyotech.co.uk, including assembly, software installation and delivery is £1563.93

This of course comes with a full warranty.

Just goes to show, if you shop around, its not always cheaper to build your own :D
 
#18
jon752 said:
Theres a fix to make games use 3GB. can be found on the Nvidia site. It's going to be "fixed" properly in the next SP. Well whenever that is going to be released
Its not just for games and its not a fix its a "hack". By their very nature 32bit systems cannot address more than 4gb of memory ( 2 to the power 32 = 4,294,967,296
4,294,967,296 / (1,024 x 1,024) = 4,096), but this also includeds the IO address space windows needs to manage your hardware. As a general rule of thumb the amount of memory left for windows will be 4GB minus your graphics card memory.

The fix you refer to is called PAE (Physical Address Extension) which allows 36bit addressing, but your motherboard has to support it inn the BIOS, then in addition the software needs to be written to specifically take advantage of this.

I would put money on this not happening in the mainstream. Its far easier to sort out the 64bit driver probelsm and get everyone to migrate to 64bit

However if you do install 4gb on a 32bit machine, you will still have more memeory available to windows tahn if you had 2 or even 3gb installed, plus in the future when you upgrade to 64 bit os, bingo all your Ram back :D
 
#19
Have you thought about dropping the £350 gtx and getting 2x 8800gt with a sli motherboard? Recent reviews of the new 8800gt are showing that it beats 8800gts and gets very close (90%+) of a gtx. 8800gt prices are ranging from around £150-£200 and your psu will easily power them.
 
#20
I actually went with the MSI Ultra in the end which comes pre overclocked. I read up a lot on SLI and decided that the dual cost did not equal the performance gains. That said I am well aware that the Ultra is NOT good value for money, but it was a case of I had the opportunity (read permission from wife) of getting the best system, and so I went for the top Graphics card at the time.

In terms of current graphics cards, this Months PC Format is raving about a newly released pre overclocked GTS 320 for around £200 that comes very close to the GTX, hence my recommendation on another thread