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New medal.

#1
Does anyone here know what the process of issuing a new medal actually involves? I was given to understand two years ago (from a very reliable source) that a new medal for certain ops not currently covered by other medals was on the verge of being issued. A couple of days ago, a mate recounted a conversation with with an equally reliable source at a recent well-publicised shindig, where he was told that it is still on the cards, but the Crab equivalent of the two sources was blocking it.
 
#2
What was the medal meant to be for? Bear in mind the two major principles: no new medals for events that finished more than 5 years ago, and no deouble-medalling.

The key document is JSP 761.

The organisation is the HD Committee, see How is a medal instituted for an explanation:

How is a medal instituted?

British Medals Policy

The procedures which lead to the institution of a British award have been followed for many years, with only minor changes. In the case of campaign service or an emergency situation, the process starts when the senior Commander in the field considers that the operational situation is such that it is deserving of medallic recognition. His recommendation is passed to PJHQ for their consideration. If it gains support at this level the submission is passed to the Chief of the Defence Staff (CDS). If CDS approves the proposal, the Defence Services Secretary submits the case to the Committee on the Grant of Honours Decorations and Medals, (known generally as the HD Committee), through the Ceremonial Officer of the Cabinet Office. The HD Committee is a sub committee of the Cabinet. If it also supports the case for a medal the submission is presented Her Majesty The Queen for approval.

The HD Committee

The HD Committee evolved from a pre-war organisation, the Committee on the Grant of Honours, Decorations and Medals in Time of War. The Committee is chaired by the Cabinet Secretary and Head of the Home Civil Service. The other senior officials are:
Private Secretary to The Sovereign
Appointments Secretary to the Prime Minister
Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Defence
Defence Services Secretary
Permanent Secretary Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Permanent Secretary, Home Office
Secretary of the Central Chancery of the Orders of Knighthood
Ceremonial Officer of the Cabinet Office (Secretary)
There is no direct Ministerial involvement with the Committee as it reports directly to The Sovereign. However, PPS/Prime Minister is responsible for reporting to the Prime Minister matters discussed by the Committee. Similarly, PS/The Sovereign represents the Royal Household and in this way The Sovereign can be advised of progress throughout all stages of the Committee's deliberations over medal proposals. The Sovereign maintains a keen interest in the work of the Committee.

Qualifying Periods

Qualifying periods for each award or medal are determined by consideration of the rigours of the campaign. This is not standardised. In some circumstances, the qualifying period agreed has been as short as one day's service, whereas other medals or clasps require 90 days' continuous service. At least one campaign medal (the General Service Medal 1918-1962 with clasp Cyprus) required 120 days service to qualify. The case for each medal is considered on its own merits.

Retrospective Awards

Since the end of World War II, the HD Committee has maintained a policy that it will not consider the belated institution of awards and medals for service given many years earlier. The reason for this policy is that the present HD Committee cannot put itself in the place of the Committee which made the original decision and which would have been able to take account of the views of the Government and of other interested parties at the time of the decision. The HD Committee has made it clear on a number of occasions, (most recently in February 2002), in response to requests for the institution of belated awards that it will not reconsider this policy. They will not reconsider cases that took place more than five years ago. If an exception were to be made for one case, then it would be almost impossible to refuse to re-consider every other claim for retrospective institution of an award or medal. The HD Committee does not feel obligated to acknowledge so-called precedents dating back to the 19th Century, when Queen Victoria instituted awards for service in the Napoleonic War, over thirty years later.
 
#4
There was me hoping that with the QDJM whinging all but finished, this would be a new demand for a NDM thread
Nearly, but not quite the NDM, it's for actual ops. From what Barbs has posted above, it seems all that is needed is for one more person to sign up to it before CDS rubber stamps it.
 

BuggerAll

LE
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#8
The five year thing must be bollocks though seen as both my grandfathers both got medals earnt well over 5 years previous.

...and the Suez Canal Bar to the NGSM and GSM. Issued about 50 years after the event. Apparently that didn't break the 5 year rule because although the commander at the time recommended there is some question as to whether the HD committee considered it fully.
 

ugly

LE
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#10
I suppose one way to keep the moaners happy is to issue all persons who ever served, an appropriate GSM but only Bars for ops. Then the Legion warriors can turn up with fake bars making it more sporting to spot the walt!
 

BuggerAll

LE
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#11
Is this a situation for which a medal used to be issued, but now is not, however activity is continuing at a tempo which justifys the issuing of one?
That probably covers IRAQ and to a certain extent NI - especially if you are EOD. Why not spit it out and tell us what you're going on.
 
#12
Is this a situation for which a medal used to be issued, but now is not, however activity is continuing at a tempo which justifys the issuing of one?
No, no medals previously issued.

I'm not sure what the full criteria is likely to be, or which ops will attract this, so don't want to say what will or won't qualify, but it has been known by some colloquially as the MT 1.1 medal.
 
#14
No, no medals previously issued.

I'm not sure what the full criteria is likely to be, or which ops will attract this, so don't want to say what will or won't qualify, but it has been known by some colloquially as the MT 1.1 medal.
Why not just ask if there's going to be a new medal for the submarine bummers instead of getting all Basildon Bond on us?
 

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