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Mr_Baiter

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The smart move for Boris would be to say “right, looks like we’ve both done things that with hindsight weren’t a smart move? We now need to drop the point scoring and crack on without distractions on the task of getting us clear of this pandemic and getting the country up and running again. You can either sit opposite and sling shite like a mad chimp or you can come up with some constructive suggestions but either way, there’s work to be done. Your call.”
Totally agree

The Starmer thing looks less like an organised event and more like a drink during a meeting than the large drinks meetings taking place at No10. But if the Tory ones are outside the rules then so are the Labour ones - depending on when they took place.

What it probably highlights is that nobody is without sin and that they should start doing real politics rather than mudslinging

I'm fairly certain there will be pictures of (Fl)Abbot drinking during lockdown in the company of people as well since she appears to be unable to go even a short while without a drink. However it won't be a social occasion on the basis that no one will believe that anyone wanted to socialise with her. They might be classed as carers instead.
 

Mr_Baiter

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Well well well - isn’t it strange how all the other hypocrites are now being found out! Starmer the lockdown party animal and you can bet there are now a lot of other politicians and officials bricking it that they re going to join bo jo on the naughty step! Will starmer have the courage to step down and will labour mp s call for his resignation? - I cannot wait for the snp to be found out too!
The SNP didn't even need a meths party - when they break the law it seems they do it properly - no grey areas for them - Margaret Ferrier

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And what the Yellow Rubbery FCUK is going on with her teeth? Does she have a crack habit or something?
 
Totally agree

The Starmer thing looks less like an organised event and more like a drink during a meeting than the large drinks meetings taking place at No10. But if the Tory ones are outside the rules then so are the Labour ones - depending on when they took place.

What it probably highlights is that nobody is without sin and that they should start doing real politics rather than mudslinging

I'm fairly certain there will be pictures of (Fl)Abbot drinking during lockdown in the company of people as well since she appears to be unable to go even a short while without a drink. However it won't be a social occasion on the basis that no one will believe that anyone wanted to socialise with her. They might be classed as carers instead.
Abbott illegally drinking a can of Mojito on a tube train is not talked about anymore.
 
Abbott illegally drinking a can of Mojito on a tube train is not talked about anymore.

Nearly 3 years later and it’s not still in the news? I blame the biased BBC for covering it up.
 

philc

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Nearly 3 years later and it’s not still in the news? I blame the biased BBC for covering it up.
Which perfectly illustrates my earlier point.

We have a country which needs to start getting sorted. Lots of indicators suggest that we are well on the way out of Covid and that output in various measures is returning. Now’s the time to grip it.

This thread mimics parliament, lots of people digging up indiscretions, recent and not so recent to support their tribe. The fact remains that any number of parliamentarians of all hues will have broken the rules, ditto many Arrsers. All very naughty. The difference is that we can all smash away at keyboards anonymously and to some degree of coherence but in real terms to absolutely zero effect. When we’ve all finished calling everyone else out the world and our place in it has changed by the cube root of cock all.

That is not a luxury our parliamentarians have. Think what might be achieved if they spent a bit more time sorting shite out and a bit less time yelling abuse? By any metric the government is being hamstrung by an opposition that has yet to contribute anything to the debate beyond personality or identity based invective. If the government is making such a bollocks of running the country you’d expect realistic challenges to government policy and decisions. I’m not seeing much if any of that, just loads of “you’re a ******”.

Pathetic, self serving and of no use to the nation. Yes it’s amusing to watch the rank hyprocisy and inept flailing of the opposition but actually, it’s not funny any more because we as a nation are going nowhere fast as a result. I don’t think that’s acceptable.
 

Mr_Baiter

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Which perfectly illustrates my earlier point.

We have a country which needs to start getting sorted. Lots of indicators suggest that we are well on the way out of Covid and that output in various measures is returning. Now’s the time to grip it.

This thread mimics parliament, lots of people digging up indiscretions, recent and not so recent to support their tribe. The fact remains that any number of parliamentarians of all hues will have broken the rules, ditto many Arrsers. All very naughty. The difference is that we can all smash away at keyboards anonymously and to some degree of coherence but in real terms to absolutely zero effect. When we’ve all finished calling everyone else out the world and our place in it has changed by the cube root of cock all.

That is not a luxury our parliamentarians have. Think what might be achieved if they spent a bit more time sorting shite out and a bit less time yelling abuse? By any metric the government is being hamstrung by an opposition that has yet to contribute anything to the debate beyond personality or identity based invective. If the government is making such a bollocks of running the country you’d expect realistic challenges to government policy and decisions. I’m not seeing much if any of that, just loads of “you’re a ******”.

Pathetic, self serving and of no use to the nation. Yes it’s amusing to watch the rank hyprocisy and inept flailing of the opposition but actually, it’s not funny any more because we as a nation are going nowhere fast as a result. I don’t think that’s acceptable.
Pretty much all of my thinking summarised more coherently and succinctly than I can manage.

I doff my trilby in your direction, well done........well done indeed.
 
Which perfectly illustrates my earlier point.

We have a country which needs to start getting sorted. Lots of indicators suggest that we are well on the way out of Covid and that output in various measures is returning. Now’s the time to grip it.

This thread mimics parliament, lots of people digging up indiscretions, recent and not so recent to support their tribe. The fact remains that any number of parliamentarians of all hues will have broken the rules, ditto many Arrsers. All very naughty. The difference is that we can all smash away at keyboards anonymously and to some degree of coherence but in real terms to absolutely zero effect. When we’ve all finished calling everyone else out the world and our place in it has changed by the cube root of cock all.

That is not a luxury our parliamentarians have. Think what might be achieved if they spent a bit more time sorting shite out and a bit less time yelling abuse? By any metric the government is being hamstrung by an opposition that has yet to contribute anything to the debate beyond personality or identity based invective. If the government is making such a bollocks of running the country you’d expect realistic challenges to government policy and decisions. I’m not seeing much if any of that, just loads of “you’re a ******”.

Pathetic, self serving and of no use to the nation. Yes it’s amusing to watch the rank hyprocisy and inept flailing of the opposition but actually, it’s not funny any more because we as a nation are going nowhere fast as a result. I don’t think that’s acceptable.
That is exactly the conversation my wife and I had this morning. While the politicians and the press are busy watching the squirrels, the whole forest is on fire and nobody is doing anything. They are a shower of useless, posing oafs who are only interested in their own fortunes. They are a national disgrace.

I have a feeling that Richard Tice and his Reform party are going to start attracting enough votes to ruin the Tories re-election hopes. Not because he offers a credible alternative, but because he is neither Conservative nor Labour. This is the first time that I have ever believed that the country is going to hell in a handcart.
 
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That is exactly the conversation my wife and I had this morning. While the politicians and the press are busy watching the squirrels, the whole forest is on fire and nobody is doing anything. They are a shower of useless, posing oafs who are only interested in their own fortunes. They are a national disgrace.

I have a feeling that Richard Tice and his Reform party are going to start attracting enough votes to ruin the Tories re-election hopes. Not because he offers a credible alternative, but because he is neither Conservative nor Labour. This is the first time that I have ever believed that the country is going to hell in a handcart.
You can’t be old enough to remember all of the cnuts who ran previous governments! - think this is bad go back to the 70s!
 

BuggerAll

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That is exactly the conversation my wife and I had this morning. While the politicians and the press are busy watching the squirrels, the whole forest is on fire and nobody is doing anything. They are a shower of useless, posing oafs who are only interested in their own fortunes. They are a national disgrace.

I have a feeling that Richard Tice and his Reform party are going to start attracting enough votes to ruin the Tories re-election hopes. Not because he offers a credible alternative, but because he is neither Conservative nor Labour. This is the first time that I have ever believed that the country is going to hell in a handcart.
Actually I think the government are doing ok in the decisions they are making. They could do better but forget all the fluff they’re not doing badly. That’s why their enemies are making so much noise. They can’t compete on substance.
 
It just seems to me that the whole thing is upside down.

yes, the left wing mainstream and social media have spent a lot of time and money making you feel that everything is out of control, the government are in crisis and that you are going to die but I assure that everything could be 10 times worse!

- just imagine far left extremist Socialists like Sturgeon, Drakeford or Starmer were in charge! - BoJo maybe a useless cnut but he's less harmful than the alternative and it is undeniable that the Tory front bench, although also cnuts, are head and shoulders more competent than all of the other party's.

Lastly, if BoJo goes, who replaces him and do we know if they will be any better? - the yanks replaced Trump because of his mean tweets rather than his policies which were mainstream and good for everyday Americans and now they are in absolute freefall with a 'nice guy' president who continues to divide the nation through racism, far left politics, authoratariasm and unbelievably bad financial incompetence (7% inflation and counting)

- we need to be very wary what Laura Kuntsberg and Beth Rigbys plan is in getting rid of BoJo because the question we must all start asking is, 'and then what?'
 
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Starmer on the radio news just now. He was seen drinking, but his drinks were definitely a work related event. So that’s alright then.

Edited to correct spulling.
 
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BuggerAll

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Was he there or just present?
Is he ever more than ‘just present’?

Rosen without trace. It won’t be long before he’s not even a footnote in history.
 

BuggerAll

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