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You can't stop lying you have already been told, stop pretending.

You throw out the liar accusation to freely for if to have any meaning. The Helmet who cried liar.

Telling Parliament that there were no parties and then having to apologise for going to a party, now that’s a lie.
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

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Strangely vanished after a brief mention on the BBC site, along with the China thing.
Not reported on radio news at all this morning. Not much attention given to the Chinese money given to the Labour MP either.

Odd, isn't it, from an unbiased reporting service.
 

BuggerAll

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You throw out the liar accusation to freely for if to have any meaning. The Helmet who cried liar.

Telling Parliament that there were no parties and then having to apologise for going to a party, now that’s a lie.
Except that’s not what he said. He also said as far as he is aware that event was within the rules.

I think it was unwise, I agree the optics are bad but if it was within the rules…

We often complain about H&S gone mad and people over egging their risk assessments to a point where nobody can do anything.

I’m not an expert on what the rules where at the time but they were there to stop the spread of Covid. If they were within the rules and not in danger of spreading Covid…
 

Helm

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You throw out the liar accusation to freely for if to have any meaning. The Helmet who cried liar.

Telling Parliament that there were no parties and then having to apologise for going to a party, now that’s a lie.
More lies then. Gone full Bugsy too with an amusing nickname, the only difference between you and him at this point, is you may well have been in the Army.
 
Except that’s not what he said. He also said as far as he is aware that event was within the rules.

I think it was unwise, I agree the optics are bad but if it was within the rules…

We often complain about H&S gone mad and people over egging their risk assessments to a point where nobody can do anything.

I’m not an expert on what the rules where at the time but they were there to stop the spread of Covid. If they were within the rules and not in danger of spreading Covid…

its almost as if everyone else was perfect - even the tiktoking nurses that everyone seems to have forgotten about and god knows who else. One thing i can absolutely guarantee is that behind the scenes the media and all the other political partys will be quietly investigating and deleting photos and e-mails etc of any parties they were upto! - remember Kay Burley and Beth whatsherface then, according to Mike Graham inside No10 there is some cafe's etc where noone - that includes the likes of Laura k etc were wearing face masks or obeying social distancing so, BoJo maybe a lying cnut but there are plenty of lying cnuts surrounding him all pointing at him whilst desperately being quiet about what they were upto
 
its almost as if everyone else was perfect - even the tiktoking nurses that everyone seems to have forgotten about and god knows who else. One thing i can absolutely guarantee is that behind the scenes the media and all the other political partys will be quietly investigating and deleting photos and e-mails etc of any parties they were upto! - remember Kay Burley and Beth whatsherface then, according to Mike Graham inside No10 there is some cafe's etc where noone - that includes the likes of Laura k etc were wearing face masks or obeying social distancing so, BoJo maybe a lying cnut but there are plenty of lying cnuts surrounding him all pointing at him whilst desperately being quiet about what they were upto

The shoplifter’s defence, everyone else is stealing, so why shouldn’t I.

Not a good look for The PM and politicians.
 
I think you're missing the point. Faux outrage and massive hypocrisy surrounds this whole farce.

That’s what happens when you impose things on others and then ignore it yourself.
 
its almost as if everyone else was perfect - even the tiktoking nurses that everyone seems to have forgotten about and god knows who else. One thing i can absolutely guarantee is that behind the scenes the media and all the other political partys will be quietly investigating and deleting photos and e-mails etc of any parties they were upto! - remember Kay Burley and Beth whatsherface then, according to Mike Graham inside No10 there is some cafe's etc where noone - that includes the likes of Laura k etc were wearing face masks or obeying social distancing so, BoJo maybe a lying cnut but there are plenty of lying cnuts surrounding him all pointing at him whilst desperately being quiet about what they were upto
Good point, hoops are probably a twitching - just needs one faceache or media post and pics not to be deleted and the guano hits the fan for someone?
 

Mr_Baiter

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There is so much of real substance that both of our political parties could wheel out against each other - things that actually affect policy, prosperity etc etc.

It's depressing that they wade into each other along lines that only give them a perceived advantage in the opinion polls. Mask wearing, drinks parties, sexual shenanigans etc.

If Churchill, Lloyd-George or any number of historic political leaders were subjected to the censure and scrutiny of the present I doubt any would have lasted long in the job.

Come to the conclusion that it is all over-scrutinised and over-reported. It is only the output of their policies that directly affects us and, while I like to have a massive go at those I don't like based on anything I can find, I don't really think it gets us very far and seems to keep this repeated loop of minor sh!t that doesn't really matter going round and round. I'd rather politicians spent their time trying to solve problems than protecting their backs or attack each other. Dull
 

BuggerAll

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There is so much of real substance that both of our political parties could wheel out against each other - things that actually affect policy, prosperity etc etc.

It's depressing that they wade into each other along lines that only give them a perceived advantage in the opinion polls. Mask wearing, drinks parties, sexual shenanigans etc.

If Churchill, Lloyd-George or any number of historic political leaders were subjected to the censure and scrutiny of the present I doubt any would have lasted long in the job.

Come to the conclusion that it is all over-scrutinised and over-reported. It is only the output of their policies that directly affects us and, while I like to have a massive go at those I don't like based on anything I can find, I don't really think it gets us very far and seems to keep this repeated loop of minor sh!t that doesn't really matter going round and round. I'd rather politicians spent their time trying to solve problems than protecting their backs or attack each other. Dull
Yes. People seem to forget that the rules were put into lace to protect people not to punish them. People were not allowed into hospitals to visit because it was dangerous.

My grandmother is 111 years old. She could not have visitors. They might have killed her and the other people where she lives.
 

Mr_Baiter

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Yes. People seem to forget that the rules were put into lace to protect people not to punish them. People were not allowed into hospitals to visit because it was dangerous.

My grandmother is 111 years old. She could not have visitors. They might have killed her and the other people where she lives.
Agreed - masks, restrictions and isolation were for different reasons than what is being used against the government here,

I still think the Conservatives have behaved stupidly, arrogantly and have possibly just lost the next election, or at least a great many of their seats........but I don't see the correlation between someone not being able to visit a hospital and a group of work colleagues socialising outdoors.

It was hypocritical and politically incompetent. Stank of "them and us" but in the end I don't think much harm was done.

I'm waiting to see what now gets dredged up about Labour staff breaking the rules.

And the whole stupid waste of time will start again.

Like I said, Depressing - and the general public lap it up as entertainment rather than the very serious matter of politics.
 
Oh dear. BBC headlines in the morning?
Keir Starmer enjoys beer with Labour workers despite lockdown rules banning indoor social gatherings.
LABOUR have dismissed an election ‘booze row’ after Sir Keir Starmer enjoyed a beer after a day on the campaign trail.

The smart move for Boris would be to say “right, looks like we’ve both done things that with hindsight weren’t a smart move? We now need to drop the point scoring and crack on without distractions on the task of getting us clear of this pandemic and getting the country up and running again. You can either sit opposite and sling shite like a mad chimp or you can come up with some constructive suggestions but either way, there’s work to be done. Your call.”
 
Not reported on radio news at all this morning. Not much attention given to the Chinese money given to the Labour MP either.

Odd, isn't it, from an unbiased reporting service.

Ah, but standard proceedure for the BBC, i.e. the Biased Bolshevik Corporation.
 
I still think the Conservatives have behaved stupidly, arrogantly and have possibly just lost the next election, or at least a great many of their seats........but I don't see the correlation between someone not being able to visit a hospital and a group of work colleagues socialising outdoors.

It was hypocritical and politically incompetent. Stank of "them and us" but in the end I don't think much harm was done.

Do you believe the law was broken on top of behaving stupidly and arrogantly?
 

BuggerAll

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Do you believe the law was broken on top of behaving stupidly and arrogantly?
That we don’t know. I suspect that if it has they will only be minor breaches where an individual has done something they should not have. A bit like Cumming’s trip up north. He probably didn’t break the law although the trip to Barnard Castle was very dodgy. It was perhaps overstepping the mark rather than deliberate flouting of the law.

I think the wisest thing to do would have been to have avoided even the appearance of breaking the law but as I mentioned earlier we all get annoyed at people who insist of rules and regulations that don’t actually exist - H&S gone mad etc.
 
You throw out the liar accusation to freely for if to have any meaning. The Helmet who cried liar.

Telling Parliament that there were no parties and then having to apologise for going to a party, now that’s a lie.
No it's not. It's an untruth. There is an important difference.
 

Mr_Baiter

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Do you believe the law was broken on top of behaving stupidly and arrogantly?
That we don’t know. I suspect that if it has they will only be minor breaches where an individual has done something they should not have. A bit like Cumming’s trip up north. He probably didn’t break the law although the trip to Barnard Castle was very dodgy. It was perhaps overstepping the mark rather than deliberate flouting of the law.

I think the wisest thing to do would have been to have avoided even the appearance of breaking the law but as I mentioned earlier we all get annoyed at people who insist of rules and regulations that don’t actually exist - H&S gone mad etc.
What he said
 
Well well well - isn’t it strange how all the other hypocrites are now being found out! Starmer the lockdown party animal and you can bet there are now a lot of other politicians and officials bricking it that they re going to join bo jo on the naughty step! Will starmer have the courage to step down and will labour mp s call for his resignation? - I cannot wait for the snp to be found out too!
 
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