New Initiative - Guide to moral behaviour to be issued

#1
According to The Times

All soldiers are to be issued with a guide to moral behaviour to be carried in their top pockets, as a reminder of the good conduct required whether on the battlefield or in barracks.
This sounds like a good idea, makes you wonder why they didn't do it years ago!

Soldiers are also to be given morality instruction by Army chaplains who are being trained to provide guidance in ethics and morals.
They could even go a step further and make it an annual requirement.

Full story here.
 
#3
And who exactly wrote this mastepiece of Moral guidance ? Like I need some holier than thou wee civil servant to tell me the difference between right & wrong ....on a battlefield ..or anywhere else for that matter !!!

Don't remember having to consult a book when we stopped to pick up an Iraqi officer three parts dead in the middle of a minefield during GW 1. Nor to tell me not to nick the extremely large sum of Saudi Rials the fukker was carrying ...or his extremely expensive Zeiss Binos

More PC bollox !!! :x
 
#4
That'll be MATT 6 then.
So that'll be tesed by a visit to the local chav pub, sinking eight pints, resisting goading by said chavs until closing time, politely requesting taxi back to base. Verbal abuse or fisticuffs will result in a fail... tipping the cabby and wish him a pleasant evening will get a skilled.
 
#5
think i failed this atd,, many times over in the past 23 years i served
and i still got an LSGC medal..
good conduct stripes..what makes you think thats going to stop you getting pizzed and smacking someone,,,
or officers from poking each others wives..
the s.n newspaper will go out of buisness with nothing to write about.
 
#7
Soldiers who shine in the morality stakes will be awarded with good-conduct chevrons: upside down stripes worn on the left sleeve of their dress uniform. The practice of presenting chevrons to the best-behaved soldiers has passed out of use in recent years.
So we know who to avoid around barracks and on the battle field
 
#8
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Something similar has been done before, sans chevrons, but the CGS is probably too young to remember - it was 40 years ago, when it was called "Character Training"; the instructors being the Padres. It was compulsory for all juniors in BAOR (and perhaps elsewhere) if I remember correctly.

The question then as perhaps now is who has a monopoly of moral knowledge or behaviour? Perhaps even, who's morality? The negative comments 40+ years ago concerning behaviour in Aldershot and Minden to name but two; during a period when troops were returning from Aden and Borneo, was countered with the observation that "soldiers do not have a switch, like a light switch, to instantly switch from War to Peace". Not something politicians or the civilian population are able to understand or even want to.

Rights and obligations are a two way street. I don't see much traffic coming in one particular direction.

The 'moral' guidance will be interesting reading.
 
#12
The Sunday Times said:
Chaplains will be instructed not only how to provide spiritual guidance but also about instilling “ethics and morality”.
Surely Chaplains already know how to talk to people about 'ethics and morality'? Or is the Rev Dannatt looking for some sort of more relentless, SASRA-stylee teaching?
 
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#13
Aristander said:
Something similar has been done before, sans chevrons, but the CGS is probably too young to remember - it was 40 years ago, when it was called "Character Training"; the instructors being the Padres. It was compulsory for all juniors in BAOR (and perhaps elsewhere) if I remember correctly.

The question then as perhaps now is who has a monopoly of moral knowledge or behaviour? Perhaps even, who's morality? The negative comments 40+ years ago concerning behaviour in Aldershot and Minden to name but two; during a period when troops were returning from Aden and Borneo, was countered with the observation that "soldiers do not have a switch, like a light switch, to instantly switch from War to Peace". Not something politicians or the civilian population are able to understand or even want to.

Rights and obligations are a two way street. I don't see much traffic coming in one particular direction.

The 'moral' guidance will be interesting reading.
I was just about to say the same thing, wasn't this sort of thing done during the National Service days?

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#14
Aristander said:
Something similar has been done before, sans chevrons, but the CGS is probably too young to remember - it was 40 years ago, when it was called "Character Training"; the instructors being the Padres. It was compulsory for all juniors in BAOR (and perhaps elsewhere) if I remember correctly.

The question then as perhaps now is who has a monopoly of moral knowledge or behaviour? Perhaps even, who's morality? The negative comments 40+ years ago concerning behaviour in Aldershot and Minden to name but two; during a period when troops were returning from Aden and Borneo, was countered with the observation that "soldiers do not have a switch, like a light switch, to instantly switch from War to Peace". Not something politicians or the civilian population are able to understand or even want to.

Rights and obligations are a two way street. I don't see much traffic coming in one particular direction.
The 'moral' guidance will be interesting reading.
<bangs table>
 
#15
Sod issuing it to us - try giving it to the rest of society - they need it more than we do!

Actually does that mean the Values and Standards books will be an insert in TAM size then? :)

Cheers
 

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