New Harry Flashman but GMF??

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bokkatankie

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Has any one read this yet, has been reviewed on here?

Good idea for a book but what would GMF say?

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#2
GMF "Mines a Lagavulin, your research and footnotes are shite Mr Tayler."
 

Auld-Yin

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#3
Currently being reviewed for Arrse. I have twos up in the book. :)
 
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bokkatankie

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Currently being reviewed for Arrse. I have twos up in the book. :)
Look forward to your review, the Amazon reviews are fairly good, but I think yours will be more reliable!

Did he get permission from GMF (if it was needed) to use the Flashman tag?
 
#5
Got this on Kindle the other day as the reviews on Amazon were encouraging but not had a chance to start on it yet. I suspect getting permission from GMF would be a little hard without the aid of the occult!
 
#6
You barstewards! For one second there, seeing the title of the thread I thought that someone had found a completed GMF novel & published it! My heart leapt, soared & missed a beat!!!
Then I read the thread - gutted...
 
#8
Need to get Convoy Cock involved in writing a new McAuslan series.
 
#9
Look forward to your review, the Amazon reviews are fairly good, but I think yours will be more reliable!

Did he get permission from GMF (if it was needed) to use the Flashman tag?
Post Mortem additions never really work IMHO. There's always a lack of the original author's flair and the end result can seem a bit contrived.

The author would have to have permission of the estate- presumably controlled by GMF's widow Kathleen MacDonald Fraser. His daughter is also an author so it's to be assumed that a lot of thought went to making the decision to allow the licence.
 
#10
I don't think this will be a good idea tbh. You can never replace gmf. Why not just let it be and leave them wanting more? It's sacrilege to try and remake flashman, it's hardly as if his modern counterpart would risk joining the army nowadays anyway. He'd more likely be a stockbroker or corrupt politician.
 
#11
I read Space Captain Smith the other day expecting a future flashmanesque story but that was utterly shite too.
 
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bokkatankie

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Post Mortem additions never really work IMHO. There's always a lack of the original author's flair and the end result can seem a bit contrived.

The author would have to have permission of the estate- presumably controlled by GMF's widow Kathleen MacDonald Fraser. His daughter is also an author so it's to be assumed that a lot of thought went to making the decision to allow the licence.
Thanks and I tend to agree. I did mean his estate, as the protector of his legacy, and what a legacy!

To see it trivialised (in so much as a global legacy being hijacked) in this way, without, I must add, having read the new book, is disturbing; look inside (pages one can preread) bit does not bode well.

Was the addition of Harry in front of Flashman a way to get around such permission. All GMF books were titled Flashman ..........

Edited to add, before some one else corrects me, other than:

Royal Flash and
Flash for Freedom

No mention of any such permission in the early pages but funds potentially going to H4H, so all is well in the world!
 

Auld-Yin

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Look forward to your review, the Amazon reviews are fairly good, but I think yours will be more reliable!

Did he get permission from GMF (if it was needed) to use the Flashman tag?
Not me reviewing mate but a much better reviewer, who is on leave just now. Once he has done it he has promised me twos up, which is great and of course if he does not forward it then his name may just slip from my mind when new books become available!! :)
 
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bokkatankie

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You barstewards! For one second there, seeing the title of the thread I thought that someone had found a completed GMF novel & published it! My heart leapt, soared & missed a beat!!!
Then I read the thread - gutted...
Tread softly, as you tread on my dreams. Sadly there will never be another one.
 

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It's probably heretical to admit this but I've never actually read a Flashman novel.

My understanding is that they're a rip-off / tribute / homage to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's outrageously funny Brigadier Gerard books whereby the eponymous hero saves the day usually through a combination of stupidity and a lack of self awareness?

Or is Flashman more of an Edmund Blackadder?
 
#16
It's probably heretical to admit this but I've never actually read a Flashman novel.

My understanding is that they're a rip-off / tribute / homage to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's outrageously funny Brigadier Gerard books whereby the eponymous hero saves the day usually through a combination of stupidity and a lack of self awareness?

Or is Flashman more of an Edmund Blackadder?
Flashman -- lack of self awareness! I think that must be one of the funniest lines I've ever read.
 
#17
Tread softly, as you tread on my dreams. Sadly there will never be another one.
S.M. Stirling has made the odd reference to Sir Harry in some of his stories (The Peshawar Lancers, and a short story which slips what passes for my mind these days), and I think that he could likely do a good job of carrying the Flashman series on.
 
#18
I read Space Captain Smith the other day expecting a future flashmanesque story but that was utterly shite too.
Ah, but that was a pisstake of several SF styles and series, intended as comedy - more Ripping Yarns than Flashman, the similarity is really only the cover art.

I enjoyed it. Come on, how could you resist lines like "... Crazy paving or square slabs?". The tea fixation? Or even the mystical art of Shau Teng? Tales of the British Space Empire, or even the Battle of the River Tam?

Granted it was a tad same-y by the third book, but it was still fun. Those who are curious can read some more at the website [link] ...

[video=youtube;SpKl3zyHq6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpKl3zyHq6s[/video]
 
#19
I've only read the first book of Space Captain Smith, haven't bothered with the others yet. I'm also cracking on through the Flashman series and also the Terry Pratchett Watch series. One fine thing about GMF is his uncanny attention to historical detail, that's partly what I love about his books. Flashman gives the post Victorian/Tory view of history with no pandering to the PC brigade, quite the contrary in fact, and that's why any half decent Englishman should love him. He's proud of being British and there's not many writers who can do the jingo but still compose a good story and combine it with factual history. Hardly any of today's youth have heard of the First Afghan War, the Sikh Wars or our expedition to China, Borneo etc. All the illustrious feats of Empire have been wiped clean by the hysterical left, but GMF pulls them into our view and celebrates the achievements.
 

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