New Hand Gun For UK Forces

#4
From the article.

An £8.5m contract has been awarded to Glock after a tendering contest and trials stretching over two years. No British company competed; even the new pistol's holster is made abroad, in Italy.
 

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#7
Weren't the Sigs a UOR?

Looks like the Glock is the official replacement for the Browning.

What did the Browning replace?
This is a Wah, surely? They replaced the Mess Webley, the .38" revolver - 9mm Brownings first used, I think, in 1944?
 
#10
Nice spin with little mention of the Sig's input to recent ops. How many people actually carry Browning now or in the last three years? Or that Sig can sit 'made ready' in the holster and could probably be 'fired in one second of drawing from holster'.

Re British companies - are there any who make pistols. Re holsters, I wonder if nobody bothered because they either knew they wouldn't get it (cheapest bidder wins) or else couldn't be bothered to respond to an overly complicated tender document.
 
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#12
From the article.

An £8.5m contract has been awarded to Glock after a tendering contest and trials stretching over two years. No British company competed; even the new pistol's holster is made abroad, in Italy.
Why would you want to, from a business perspective? You need a half-decent civilian/ export market, you guys just don't have it for the more mainstream items. And a start-up now would be competing against all the established players.

The super-niche market (AI, H&H etc.,) is where the current Brit firearms mfrs strengths will be...
 
#14
This is a Wah, surely? They replaced the Mess Webley, the .38" revolver - 9mm Brownings first used, I think, in 1944?
Not at all, I posted it then looked it up.

I was surprised to find the Webley had been in service 1887-1963 with the Browning in service from the second WW to present.
2 handguns covering 3 centuries is quite impressive.
 
#15
There was a sodding great big thread on this two or three months ago. Various people who seemed to know what they were talking about stated that (a) the SIGs have already taken a right hammering and are showing their age, and (b) that by law, when the reason for a UOR expires, it's disposed of and a full procurement process carried out. Which, claimed someone who appeared to have knowledge of at least some aspects of the trials, the Glock won handily.
 
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#18
Nice spin with little mention of the Sig's input to recent ops. How many people actually carry Browning now or in the last three years? Or that Sig can sit 'made ready' in the holster and could probably be 'fired in one second of drawing from holster'.

Re British companies - are there any who make pistols. Re holsters, I wonder if nobody bothered because they either knew they wouldn't get it (cheapest bidder wins) or else couldn't be bothered to respond to an overly complicated tender document.
Cheapest bidder? Italian Holsters? There was me thinking we'd get Prada...
 
#19
Re British companies - are there any who make pistols. Re holsters, I wonder if nobody bothered because they either knew they wouldn't get it (cheapest bidder wins) or else couldn't be bothered to respond to an overly complicated tender document.
I wonder why none of the British manufacturers took over any of the surviving plant in German arms factories as war reparations? Maybe they'd all been bombed to crap or the world was awash with surplus shooters.
The P38 or Stg44 production lines might have been useful, maybe we'd have then avoided using that Belgian thing.

As it was, they nicked the (later) BSA Bantam and no-one wanted the VW Beetle. Good move.
 

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