New computer, your thoughts?

#1
Right, getting a new computer for xmas, basically for gaming, ive built a custom pc on dell.co.uk and was just wondering if its a good choice and if it will play games like Arma, Crysis, COD4 etc at high specs, anyway heres the build, let me know if its a good one, thanks.


Components
AMD® Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
Dell™ 20" Black Wide Flat Panel (E207WFP) - UK/Irish
Logitech QuickCam Express Plus - free headset included
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
320GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache
128MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8300GS Turbocache graphics card
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black



I pray to god that this is good enough because its all i can afford!
 
#2
How much are you paying for it?
 

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#4
swanseasa1 said:
Right, getting a new computer for xmas, basically for gaming, ive built a custom pc on dell.co.uk and was just wondering if its a good choice and if it will play games like Arma, Crysis, COD4 etc at high specs, anyway heres the build, let me know if its a good one, thanks.


Components
AMD® Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
Dell™ 20" Black Wide Flat Panel (E207WFP) - UK/Irish
Logitech QuickCam Express Plus - free headset included
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
320GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache
128MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8300GS Turbocache graphics card
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black



I pray to god that this is good enough because its all i can afford!
Crysis on max? With that card?

You'll be lucky if it runs at all.
 
#6
oh and i didnt mean crysis on max, i should of specified that, sorry. As i posted just now its mainly to play games like Arma on max settings, any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
 
#7
As stated the graphics card is the weak point. You want to be looking to upgrade it to a Nvidia 8800 series card, there are a few flavours the 8800 GTS and Ultras being the best/most expensive.

If thats not an option you could pull out the 8300 it comes with and plug in a 3rd party ATI X1950 which you should be able to get from overclockers.co.uk for less than £100. Its not the latest DirectX 10 compatible but it is still a very fast card and will happily play all current games at reasonable resolutions.
 
#8
If you can tweak your choices or even put a bit more cash towards it i would highly recommend 4Gb ram, you will need it for gaming under vista though the graphics card is the biggest slow point.

That graphics card is not good, its turbocache which means it uses some of the system ram for storage, gives big speed increases for low end systems but not good if your aim is gaming. For high settings you will be looking at the Nvidia 8800GTX or GTS cards, GTS would be better value for money when on a budget, also the ATi 2900s or 3800s would happily do aswell but cheaper.
 
#9
thanks for the replies everyone, i had a good look around some sites last night and managed to get my budget upto £600-650, i came up with a new build and was hoping youd be able to give some advice on it, here goes:

processor - intel core 2 duo e6750 cpu

power supply - standard 450 watt psu

memory - 3gb kingston 667mhz pc5300 ddr2 RAM

pcie graphics - 256mb nvidia 8600gts

sound card - integrated 5.1 channel sound card

primary hard drive - 160gb sata2 7200rpm hard drive

operating system - genuine windows vista home premium

is this a good deal for £550.00
 
#10
I'd still look at changing the graphics card if you are going to use it for gaming a lot.

However that card would still run most stuff fine but depends on what you are expecting (resolution etc) Just make sure the case has ample room and the M/B a second PCI-E slot and you can always upgrade that card or add a second 8600 later on.
 
#11
Ok i just went to PC Specialist.co.uk and built the following system for £660 inc VAT + delivery. Upper end of your budget i know but this has all the kit you could want at a reasonable price. If you do go for this one make sure the case has at least 2 120mm fans in it.

If you wanted to go cheaper you could change the CPU to the E6750 and save £40. Also i selected 64Bit windows as that means you can upgrade the RAM to 4Gb as 32Bit cant handle it, i have no experiance of 64Bit so id phone them up and ask how it is with the likes of games, anti virus and so on, XP 64Bit did have problems. Upgrading the ram is easy at a future date, buy same same brand and speed, open the side of the case up, slot it in, make sure the 2 mount clips are in place - easy. 4Gb is recommended under Vista, and Quad core will keep you happy for games for quite some time.

Intel® Core™2 Quad Q6600 (4 X 2.40GHz) 1066MHz FSB/8MB L2 Cache
2GB CORSAIR XMS2 800MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x1GB) Put in another 2Gb in future when you have more cash, not expensive
ASUS® P5K SE: DDR2, SATAII, PCI-e x16, 2 PCI, 3 x PCI-e x1
64 BIT WINDOWS® VISTA Home Premium (inc CD & License) (£69) Check how stable it is compared to the 32Bit version
8 x USB 2.0 PORTS (6 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD
250GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7200rpm) Decent size for porn, games and music
20x Dual Layer LightScribe DVD Writer ±R/±RW/RAM
512MB RADEON HD 3850XT PCI Express + DVI Preforms just as well as the 8800GTS cards but much cheaper
500W (Peak) Quiet Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£25)
SUPER QUIET 19 dBA INTEL CPU COOLER (£14) Check how much better this is compared to the stock fan. It should be better as the stock ones are a bit rubbish
Also there is this one £640 inc vat + delivery, good specs but not as good as above. Though its a much nicer case to show off.

These dont include monitors, im afraid there is a bit of a jump from your dell system to these, not much of a middle ground to factor in the monitors price, unless somebody can prove me wrong i hope.
 
#12
thanks alot everyone, really helpful as i stated previously this computer is mainly to play arma, as a long time fan of operation flashpoint i've drooled over arma since the day it was announced but only now have the money to afford a new computer, is the build i mentioned in my last post able to run arma on max settings at a decent fps?
 
#13
is the nvidia nforce 500 sli a good graphics card by any chance? according to the nvidia website, sli's are top of the range for gaming? im sorry to keep asking you irritating questions but i really do not have much clue to what is what with computers.
 
#14
Ignore the hype about sli, you are better to spend more money on a single card. The system you mentioned above has a nice processor, but I really would go for a 8800 series if you can stretch to it. Mikes system above looks nice, though I dispute the graphics card comment. A quick google of review sites showed me that the 3850 is far below the 8800 gt (never mind the GTS), but it is cheaper and definitely better than the 8600.

Another good site to customise your own is www.yoyotech.co.uk
 
#15
swanseasa1 said:
is the nvidia nforce 500 sli a good graphics card by any chance? according to the nvidia website, sli's are top of the range for gaming? im sorry to keep asking you irritating questions but i really do not have much clue to what is what with computers.
NForce 500 is actually a chipset, not a graphics card. Its an Nvidia chipset on motherboards that support SLI
 
#16
Just a thought - about timing rather than spec - prices are often lower in January than December, so if you don't mind waiting for a couple of weeks, you may find yourself getting a little extra for your cash.
 
#18
monkeyspanker said:
Or buy a console if you're going to be gaming.

Buy a PC for gaming and you're going to be chasing your own arrse to keep up with the requirements for games.
Ignoring torrents for a second (as hard as it may be :twisted: ) one of the plus sides to PC versus consoles is the sheer amount of top games you can get for just a few quid. I was browsing PC world the other day and some of the "Budget" price games going for £5 or less that were top games less than 18 months ago is astounding
 
#19
right i think ive come up with a good build after reading all your advice and im pretty sure im gonna go with it considering its only £520

amd athlon 64 x2 dual-core 6000+ 3.0ghz 2048kb l2 cache socket am2 processor

nvidia geforce 8800gt 640mhz 512mb

160gb hard drive

asus m2n-e sli motherboard - athlon 64 x2 socket am2 nvidia nforce 500 sli

2x kingston value Ram 1gb 800mhz


seems pretty good, your thoughts lads?
 

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