New Britains vision : no pre-marital sex, arranged marriage

mora

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#1
Why bitching about Enoch ("rivers of blood") Powell when you have Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari? Recently the British Rear-Admiral Chris Parry has controversially predicted the “reverse colonisation” of the West as “globalisation makes assimilation seem redundant”


The Times June 13, 2006
The blind misleading the blind
Libby Purves

And respect is a two-way street. Moderate, sane Muslims in the West have got duties too, and it is not enough merely to refrain from murder. Let us turn from the crass Ms Graffy to the first interview of Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, new secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain. He is entitled to protest about the police error in Forest Gate, and to defend “frightened, poor, under-educated and unemployed” Muslims. But he then added that his aim is to encourage Britain to abandon her faulty ways and adopt Muslim principles. He wants us to copy their claimed values of modesty and family. He thinks we should adopt arranged marriages: “They are a good idea . . . not forced on children but a way of parents helping to guide their children to make the right choices.” Moreover we should accept that “pre-marital sex is wrong, cohabitation is wrong . . . and gambling is terrible”. Non-Muslim children should be sent to Muslim schools because “they are better: they have more discipline, more respect . . . fewer miniskirts, less bad behaviour”. Oh, and we would be better off without alcohol. The interviewer does not seem to have asked his views on gayness and civil partnerships, but I reckon we can make a good guess. The Archbishop of Canterbury, adds Dr Bari patronisingly, should give more of a moral lead.

Many do not need encouragement. The British Rear-Admiral Chris Parry has controversially predicted the “reverse colonisation” of the West as “globalisation makes assimilation seem redundant” and migrants remain connected by internet and cheap flights with their homeland, and despise their dwelling place. He is on to something.

There are vast differences of degree, but there is still a line to be drawn all the way from a terrorism that despises its victims, through Guantanamo officials who despise their prisoners, to Dr Bari’s visible contempt for his boozing, gambling, licentious host nation. His is not an extreme voice but it is a powerful one, and the echoes it raises are dangerous indeed. You hear them often enough: hark at this 24-year-old bus driver in East London talking to an American newspaper:

“No way would I ever say I’m British . . . Friday night at the disco, shagging anything that moves, young women wearing miniskirts so they get raped. Is this what they mean by democracy? That’s got nothing to do with us.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2222413,00.html
 
#2
Over my dead body!

Friday night at the disco, shagging anything that moves, young women wearing miniskirts so they get raped.
Cuz thats exactly what they want isnt it?

Lets have a taliban government eh? Cuz they're great. And at least women are respected by them :twisted:
 
#3
Does that mean he can have honour killings as well? well if they dont like our "faulty ways" they can always buy a 1 way ticket back to what 3rd world doss hole they came from. I thought that they were trying to get immigrants to intergrate into British society not the other way around!. And as for arranged marriages ask them why there is a increased number of genetic birth defects in the Asian commiunty due to arranged marriges between cousins ect.....banjos anyone?
 
#4
If I were to say,taking the robust australian view,that the esteemed Dr Bari(pbuh) should f#ck right off at the high port to wherever he was virtuously spawned. I'm sure we would discover that he was born in Wolverhampton or Chipping Sodbury :evil:
 
#5
No pre-marital sex? But that's my favorite kind of sex! :(
 
#6
I read that article this morning. Not good considering that the Muslim Council is looked at as the view of all Muslims (Though a lot of them don't like this). The previous guy was just as bad and he was given a title! They wonder why the general population is getting restless when prats like him open their mouths and spout this sort of crap....... :x
 
#7
I like the idea of arranged marriage my old man is as we speck approaching Mr. Church with the idea of me shacking up with his daughter Charlotte.
 
#8
Death_Rowums said:
No pre-marital sex? But that's my favorite kind of sex! :(
i didnt think there was any sex after the wedding night anyhow 8O
 
#9
What a crock of sh!t. You want to raise your kids to wear "modest attire," not drink and not sh@g like alleycats? Go right ahead. Nobody's stopping you. As the article's author admits, these are not necessarily bad things in and of themselves.

But when you're going to get on your high horse about how your religion provides all the answers to all your host country's evil, infidel ways and you're here to fix it? And to recommend that everyone else do like you? You're a sanctimonious pr!ck that can only be counted on to sow discontent, and you should consider taking up residence in a place where the lifestyle isn't so upsetting to you.

To me this has very little to do with race, and everything to do with his lame indictment of "British values"...and whether someone who can't get behind those British values (which are just fine from where I sit) can be a productive part of the British dialogue.
 
#10
sprjim said:
Over my dead body!

Friday night at the disco, shagging anything that moves, young women wearing miniskirts so they get raped.
Cuz thats exactly what they want isnt it?

Lets have a taliban government eh? Cuz they're great. And at least women are respected by them :twisted:
Yes they can wear a nice tablecloth then that will stop them getting raped.
 
#12
Nothing imposed on our culture would suprise me.
For many years now we have been chastised and persecuted for upsetting the neighbours.
British culture is slowly being eroded for the sake of peaceful co-existence with other beliefs and cultures.
We got one foot on the slippery path to doom and no bugger with any balls seems capable of redressing the balance...............
I could go on but PC McNasty of the Labour thought police would hoik my arrse off into a dark room.
 
#13
8O What worries me is not that this cnut exists, or that he is allowed to voice his poisonous views. After all, that freedom of speech is what we're protecting.

What actually worries me is that the cnut thats busy eroding our freedom of speech, the cnut that lives in 10 Downing Street, will do his fcuking level best to introduce some of this bøllocks as law. It'll probably be dressed up as "protecting the human rights of Muslims to not be offended by vile Anglo-Saxon habits" or somesuch bøllocks....

I hate Bliar, and all that he does. He and all his minions really boil my pish :evil:
 
#14
Time to mention, again, the excellent position taken by the Australian government. It boils down to "if you don't like the way we do things here, you can poke off". Seems a good stance.
 
#15
rickshaw said:
Time to mention, again, the excellent position taken by the Australian government. It boils down to "if you don't like the way we do things here, you can poke off". Seems a good stance.
Indeed that is the action which should be taken.

However, how long will it be before our (British citizens of any faith or race, that actually want to fit in are included there) way of life is changed so that the Australian governments position cannot be adopted by the British government. The time to act would be soon or the very near future, any longer and I don't doubt there will be more legislation and protection of sh*ts that are trying to change our country.
 
#16
TankiesYank said:
But when you're going to get on your high horse about how your religion provides all the answers to all your host country's evil, infidel ways and you're here to fix it? And to recommend that everyone else do like you? You're a sanctimonious pr!ck that can only be counted on to sow discontent, and you should consider taking up residence in a place where the lifestyle isn't so upsetting to you.
Might I suggest any number of the Red States of the US? Such ideas would be very familiar to members of the Southern Baptist Convention. :D
 
#17
The more i here from these religous nutters the lees i believe in any god and the more my politics shift from middle of the road to extreme right. Im English and proud but to display that in these times(outside of World Cup Fever ) leads to acusations of racism.
Still soap box away and stay away :!: from the right
 
#18
How different is the muslim obsession with establishing a Caliphate any different from the western obsession with establishing western style democracies? Both are to be forced upon nations who don't necessarily want them and won't necessarily benefit from them. It would be nice if each type stayed their respective side of Istanbul, but by their nature that doesn't seem likely.
 
#20
Bari didnt even say those things in that manner, hes being deliberately misconstrued.

He expressed a personal opinion about sex before marriage (a position not that different to other religions) and defended arranged marriages, again nowt wrong with that.

At no point did he say he wanted to force it upon British society.
 

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