New Body Armour

Can any one help me out is the such a thing as new body armor. I saw one very small picture looks like Yank armour can any one shed any light on this and if pos link to some pictures. Sorry if this is a re-post :?
I saw the body armour you are talking about the other day, and got some hand on time with it.

It is damned heavy when you pick it up, as the plates have increased in size to cover the whole of the front and back. The plates can take at least 3x 7.62 at close range and not allow for penetration - I saw the plate which had this done. Quite impressive! Once you have the armour on, it doesn't feel so bad. IT also has a neck protector and shoulder pads to protect against fragmentation. It is similar to the yank armour in that it has loops all over where you can attach pouches. I believe that the armour is issued with 2x mag pouches and a utility pouch, although it is compatible with PLCE.

The armour is an in-theatre issue, and it is being rolled out across Iraq and Afghanistan at the moment. Should be complete by the Autumn.
Ahhhhhh, NOT ECBA then?......

Am I right in thinking that the young lad featured on the Panorama programme Sum PM who was killed by an IED was wearing it? (Thats not meant as an indictment of its capabilities, just as an aid to ID'ing it)

My question has been answered on the 'Panorama' thread - Pte Ellis was indeed wearing the new stuff..................
There are two types of body armour available. The top cover armour has integral neck and arm protection, the new ECBA which is for all other troops has removable neck and arm protection. Whichever armour that guy was wearing, the sad fact is that nothing is going to fully protect from a well aimed IED blast.
Yeah did think that to be honest dont think a lot would of protected him. So there is two differnt types then do they both have the yank style collar if I can call it that???


War Hero
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There are 4 types correctly in use they have fancy names but I will edit this tomorrow when I can check them:

CBA Combat Body armour (No plates)
ECBA Enhances Combat Body Armour (With plates).
ICBA Improved Combat Body Armour (with Elvis collar) (KESTRAL)
o Designed for top cover and Large B vehicle drivers there are many threads reference this topic.
OSPREY this is the new Infantry body armour it’s more like ECBA with a much larger plate both front and back.

I hope this answers your question
Is the ECBA similar or is it the new interceptor body armour that the yanks are now being issued?


War Hero
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No idea I only deal with what’s available. I leave the development to the boffs

It sounds similar to this new Yank stuff.
Quite a bit off topic, but does any one know the reasoning behind the new yank uniform's beig grey? Is it a new uraban cam? I heard rumours that they had a new design that was suitable for all terrains, its not that is it?

The_Cheat said:
Quite a bit off topic, but does any one know the reasoning behind the new yank uniform's beig grey? Is it a new uraban cam? I heard rumours that they had a new design that was suitable for all terrains, its not that is it?

It what the Yanks call digital pattern cam. It was design using computers to provide the most effective cam there are three types and the one shown on the body is the multi terrian version. Its not suitable for all but apparently most. There is still a seperate woodland and desert version as well.
Actually, that is the new US Army pattern - ACU. It replaces woodland and desert, only the US Marines have separate patterns now
I've fabric samples of the ACU in Cordura 1000 , Its very different from their old woodland and 3 colour desert.
Also I've a uniform set in Desert Marpat , The Pattern looks much the same as the ACU though it came out first.
Do they work ? The ACU looks like it would work in the desert and in street fighting ( middle east) but I'm not sure about its use in green areas and bush.
As I understand it, the yanks tested it in a wide variety of settings and against other cam patterns (including ours) and found that it was the best 'all round' pattern, and was effective in all settings, being at least 'almost' as effective as their previous stuff, and 'almost' as effective as anything else out there. One of the key features was that they took black out of the cam, as it always looked wrong; the reason being that nothing is black in nature (except coal!), that is nothing on the battlefield anyway.

Older (Cold Warriors) members will remember th Soviets using a digital cam pattern which was, alledgedly, 'boorowed' from research the yanks had done in the early 70's.

I've got a set of ACU, the cam pattern is good, but I'm not overly keen on the amount of Velcro used!
Yeah I looked it up, and it's also supposed to be easy to recognise by your lot (Blue team etc) and still DPM / CAM for then enemy...But then on another website I saw some US Army types on a patrol in Iraq, and every where they went they just looked weird! Looked almost blue when they were infront of grass and far to grey infront of sand etc... But then maybe I can see them because I'm a goody.....

The other reason they gave for getting rid of the black was that with their traditional Cam and with MARPAT, when ever you moved it was the movement of the black that was noticed, even when in front of a black back-ground.


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