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New Balkans war?

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
Albanian separatists in the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohia declared creation of their Army, that is direct violation of the UN directive 1244, and it's goal is déstabilisation of situation and obviouse preparation to ethnic cleanings and genocide of Serbs.
Kosovo legislature approves creation of national army | DW | 14.12.2018

NATO forces as occupation forces must don't allow to such open violation of the UN treaties, it is their responsibility. If they will be not able to do this - there are good chances, that Serbian Army (with Russian help) will restore lawfully order and eliminate bandits.

So, NATO have to choose - to do what they must to do, or go away, or to be eliminated.

Your opinion, guys?
 
Russian trolls probably are trying to stir up another Balkans war

Do we know any Russian trolls with an opinion on this?
 

QRK2

LE
Russian trolls probably are trying to stir up another Balkans war

Do we know any Russian trolls with an opinion on this?

Wouldn't be surprising since they'd stand a good chance of winning this time. I can't see the USA piling in in support of a Muslim nation the way they did last time around. Mercenary Personnel Replacing Iranians anyone?
 
I think Serbia is probably more interested in future EU membership than giving Kosovo a kicking.

Yep, Serb President Vucic seems to be a pragmatist. Probably more cause for concern with unrest in the north of Kosovo is the effect in the wallet and the quality of life impact of Kosovar 100% tariffs on Serbian goods.
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
I think Serbia is probably more interested in future EU membership than giving Kosovo a kicking.
I think that they are interested in the "future EU membership" less than even Brits.

Adviser of Serbian president Nikola Selakovich said, that Sebia can send forces in Kosovo.

 
I think that they are interested in the "future EU membership" less than even Brits.

Adviser of Serbian president Nikola Selakovich said, that Sebia can send forces in Kosovo.

That would be Serbia that officially applied for EU membership on 22 December 2009?
 

QRK2

LE
That would be Serbia that officially applied for EU membership on 22 December 2009?

Not sure how relevant that is, it is after all nearly 10 years back and as those that were there in the early '90s are all too well aware the popular mood can change pretty darn quickly if the right buttons are pressed.
 

Daxx

MIA
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Got the NATO Kosovo medal. They need to fight somewhere else.
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
That would be Serbia that officially applied for EU membership on 22 December 2009?
Turkey did it on 14 April 1987, and still waiting. IMHO, Serbs are not so stupid to sell real land and real people for the ephemeral profit of the future membership after more than thirty years of conversations.
 
Sounds good to me

If they can please just leave it until after 29th March next year before going kinetic then it can be entirely the EU’s problem and we can step back and observe.
 
Not sure how relevant that is, it is after all nearly 10 years back...
They’re still applying. Not as fast as Slovenia and Croatia, but much faster than Turkey for example. They have a few hurdles to pass though. From four years ago and five after formally applying:
Serbia starts negotiations to join EU - English - on B92.net
He also underlined the challenges for Serbia ahead on European path in the key areas of rule of law, including the reform of the judiciary, the fight against corruption and against organized crime, public administration reform, independence of key institutions, media freedom, anti-discrimination and protection of minorities.
...and as those that were there in the early '90s are all too well aware the popular mood can change pretty darn quickly if the right buttons are pressed.
Early 90’s in Serbia? Or FRY?
 
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Turkey did it on 14 April 1987, and still waiting.
Turkey has many problems, not least the current Sultan. A few things like opening trade to Cyprus etc. Plus of course, not all countries consider them European
IMHO, Serbs are not so stupid to sell real land and real people for the ephemeral profit of the future membership after more than thirty years of conversations.
Ten years after the war they applied for membership. However, as above they have a few problems to address.

You may have a point when they formally withdraw their application. Until then it’s progressing. Slower than some countries, faster than others.
 
Err, what does FRY stand for? and what country was Serbia a constituent of before the '90s?
Errr.... We’re talking about Serbia. I’m not aware of any U.K. troops in Serbia in the mid 90’s. If you meant FRY, perhaps you should’ve said?
 
You do realise that Serbia is part of the Former Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) don't you?
You do realise we didn’t have troops in Serbia in the mid 90’s? If you meant other FRY countries, you only needed to say
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
Ten years after the war they applied for membership. However, as above they have a few problems to address.

You may have a point when they formally withdraw their application. Until then it’s progressing. Slower than some countries, faster than others.
But problems in EU are progressing, too. For example - migrants. Serbs almost lost Kosovo and Metohia because of the uncontrolled Muslims migration (supported by EU countries, too) and, surely they don't want to lost rest of the country. Serbs lived under Muslims' heel 350 years, and they don't want to repeat it. It is usually better to be rich citizens in the independent state, than suppressed and poor subjects in the Alien-controlled region. In 2012 pro-EU were near 48% of population, anti-EU - near 33%. After Russian reunion with Crymea, that increased Serb's hope to reunion with Kosovo, migrant's crisis, Brexit' - attractivity of "Join EU" idea was fallen very and very significally. Now mayority is against such join.
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kosovo-army/kosovo-approves-new-army-despite-serb-opposition-nato-criticism-idUSKBN1OD16S
NATO are not in favour of the vote to establish an Army in Kosovo. Apparently they’ll review NATO engagement (and presumably the 4,000 troop levels):
“I regret that this decision was made despite the concerns expressed by NATO,” NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said in a statement on Friday.
“The North Atlantic Council will now have to re-examine the level of NATO’s engagement with the Kosovo Security Force,” he said.
Balkan analysts doubt Serbia will actually take any action and Brnabic’s remarks appeared to be a sop to Serbian nationalists:
Balkans analysts, however, said any action by Serbia’s 28,000-strong army against Kosovo is highly unlikely given Belgrade’s aspirations to join the EU and that Brnabic’s remarks appeared to be a sop to Serbian nationalists.[/FONT]
 
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