New Army recruitment campaign

"Regular soldier Basic Training Starts by 31 March 2021, the Army is shortening some non-Infantry courses (primarily by increasing the length of the training day and by training over some weekends) "

It's almost as if they have looked and seen what the reserves do! How many other courses are 3 days work crammed into 5?
 

marabout

Old-Salt
The last 3 years of recruitment has been turgid. DRS, rubbish if any adverts, leaving significant shortfalls in junior manning. Coupled with a perceived lack of purpose and interesting tours, the numbers joining has been woeful. Last year something went a little better, but the army only nearly hit the annual target. What it didn't do was make that target one that refilled the junior ranks from the shortfall in the proceeding two years.

Units are still short, and will be for a considerable period of time. The training pipeline is much thinner, producing a lower capacity this year. If we are lucky, and there is no 2nd wave come autumn, but if there is, recruiting will come to a grinding halt once again.

The structural gapping produced from the last 3 years will be felt for years to come.
 
Genuine question here, why does training take so long?
I joined in 1971, originally in RCT, where basic was 6 weeks of drill, weapon training, fieldcraft and PT. Weapon training was only that rifle and lmg.
Those that survived 6 weeks passed out of basic, and moved to trade training, another 6 weeks.
I later transferred, and on an early range day was given a smg. Pointing out I'd never been taught it, I got a hasty session on safe handling, and successfully passed the shoot.
Similarly, later again, the 9mm Browning pistol learnt in a couple of hours, well enough to go on as part of a battalion shooting team.

I accept that infantry do more in depth training ( and tend to be a bit thick too), but how on earth does it take so long nowadays?
 
Genuine question here, why does training take so long?
I joined in 1971, originally in RCT, where basic was 6 weeks of drill, weapon training, fieldcraft and PT. Weapon training was only that rifle and lmg.
Those that survived 6 weeks passed out of basic, and moved to trade training, another 6 weeks.
I later transferred, and on an early range day was given a smg. Pointing out I'd never been taught it, I got a hasty session on safe handling, and successfully passed the shoot.
Similarly, later again, the 9mm Browning pistol learnt in a couple of hours, well enough to go on as part of a battalion shooting team.

I accept that infantry do more in depth training ( and tend to be a bit thick too), but how on earth does it take so long nowadays?
Infantry training was twenty weeks when I did it in the eighties. It was seven weeks before we even passed of the square, and got our regimental berets. Two field exercises in that time, about ten days total. Another two, seven day exercises (patrol and trench week) then a three week battle camp. A lot of weapons and shooting as well, including GPMG and SMG.
I am told it now includes adventure training and battlefield tours.
The job of the infantry is to fight the enemy. Six weeks is not long enough to learn how to do that.
 
Infantry training was twenty weeks when I did it in the eighties. It was seven weeks before we even passed of the square, and got our regimental berets. Two field exercises in that time, about ten days total. Another two, seven day exercises (patrol and trench week) then a three week battle camp. A lot of weapons and shooting as well, including GPMG and SMG.
I am told it now includes adventure training and battlefield tours.
The job of the infantry is to fight the enemy. Six weeks is not long enough to learn how to do that.
But you passed out/ off after 7 weeks? Which is what I'd label " basic" training.
The rest, trade, special to arm, more intensive, specialist, etc is all building experience, ability and so on, but it isn't " basic".
 
But you passed out/ off after 7 weeks? Which is what I'd label " basic" training.
The rest, trade, special to arm, more intensive, specialist, etc is all building experience, ability and so on, but it isn't " basic".
After seven weeks we were allowed to wear our berets. That's all. In no way were we infantry soldiers. I wouldn't call it 'basic training' either because in Britain we call it 'recruit training'. Americans do 'basic'.
 

MoleBath

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If all else fails we could brimg back rape pillage and looting the Long Boats were always fully manned


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Brotherton Lad

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Genuine question here, why does training take so long?
I joined in 1971, originally in RCT, where basic was 6 weeks of drill, weapon training, fieldcraft and PT. Weapon training was only that rifle and lmg.
Those that survived 6 weeks passed out of basic, and moved to trade training, another 6 weeks.
I later transferred, and on an early range day was given a smg. Pointing out I'd never been taught it, I got a hasty session on safe handling, and successfully passed the shoot.
Similarly, later again, the 9mm Browning pistol learnt in a couple of hours, well enough to go on as part of a battalion shooting team.

I accept that infantry do more in depth training ( and tend to be a bit thick too), but how on earth does it take so long nowadays?

There's so much more technology to learn now and more education. Even 25 years ago, what you call 'basic' was extended from 10 weeks to 13, plus a similar length of time for what you call 'trade'. Or Phase 1 and Phase 2 in the jargon of the time. Phase 3 was what you did later in your career.

Interestingly, the jargon is now basic training, initial trade training and trade training.

To put soldier training in perspective, basic training for officers is 44 weeks, initial trade training anything from 3 months or longer (depending on cap-badge) and trade training never stops.

At the extreme end of the spectrum initial trade training for AAC pilots is over 3 years.

 
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