New ACF website

TurtleHead

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#2
I am a cadet instructor so i am well placed to comment on such things, my question is this ' why do they have to photograph AI's that not only look physically unfit, biologically unhealthy and overall the Farking stereotype of a friggin sex offender?

Thank you, that is all.
TurtleHead
 

maninblack

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#3
Turtlehead,

If you have a question then please raise it in a constructive manner rather than in the styles of a recipient of congenital disease.

Other than that, take your head outside and give it a wobble.
 

TurtleHead

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#4
Nope no question, just expressing an opinion, albeit a slightly unconventional opinion, no offence intended, just those friday afternoon blues
 

maninblack

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#5
The photos reflect reality, half the instructors are bigger than ideal. I am and I was when I was an acf instructor. What is the point of using instructors who think they are Andy McNab? They are usually the ones that end up being escorted off camp.
 

TurtleHead

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#6
That is true, and most of the activities performed by ACF instructors do not require super human strength,endurance and stamina, however i do think most of the current forms used by the ACF (529 joining form) and publically available images do not show AI's in the best light, especially to many who enjoy taking the piss (a lot like i did above).

Now i am no superman, nor do i profess to be a super soldier, and most certainly do not pretend to be anything other than i am, perhaps in future my comments should be presented in a more respectable manner (at least until i see which way the thread goes)
 
#7
The photos reflect reality, half the instructors are bigger than ideal. I am and I was when I was an acf instructor. What is the point of using instructors who think they are Andy McNab? They are usually the ones that end up being escorted off camp.
True, but one has to strike a balance somewhere. The advance party of the county acf that came to take over the accomodation from us at a certain training camp earlier this year were a fecking disgrace. All were morbidly obese and one of them looked like an overweight version of the little bald fella whose head benny hill used to slap. Dressed in slacks and a vest! I thought they were going to offer to do some cheap tarmacing
 
#8
So thats why I have never heard back! Twice I have sent of application forms and twice I never heard a thing back!

Perhaps at 11 stone, fully "Enhanced Disclosured" and experience teaching, lecturing and instructing youngsters and 11 years service is not what they are after :(
 
#9
So thats why I have never heard back! Twice I have sent of application forms and twice I never heard a thing back!

Perhaps at 11 stone, fully "Enhanced Disclosured" and experience teaching, lecturing and instructing youngsters and 11 years service is not what they are after :(
If you are serious, then i suggest that you phone up directly your county hq. The acf always needs instructors, especially good ones. Unfortunately the admin at some county levels leaves a lot to be desired.
 
#10
Turtlehead,

If you have a question then please raise it in a constructive manner rather than in the styles of a recipient of congenital disease.

Other than that, take your head outside and give it a wobble.
Hang on a minute, hang on just one ******* minute. Every other thread in this forum consists of pages of ACF bashing by the same tossers, and I've never once seen them get pulled up on it. It's become a 2nd NAAFI, you want a laugh, go and prod the bum touchers for 10 minutes. An actual ACF person states a legitimate point and he gets a lecture? Considering it's dress and standards that always seem to attract derision, surely he's got a point?
 
#11
Honor roll flapjack its all part of arrse, if your an ACF instructor it seems you are a peado/walt/gun nut , as we who have been ACF instructors for years know this isnt true, but to some poor misguided souls, no matter how we try and convince them can not see past there own prejudices.
 
#12
Honor roll flapjack its all part of arrse, if your an ACF instructor it seems you are a peado/walt/gun nut , as we who have been ACF instructors for years know this isnt true, but to some poor misguided souls, no matter how we try and convince them can not see past there own prejudices.
Yeah, I know, it just goes beyond blood boiling sometimes. I'm happy with banter, but it gets far too malicious sometimes.
 
#13
Yeah, I know, it just goes beyond blood boiling sometimes. I'm happy with banter, but it gets far too malicious sometimes.
I feel the moderator should do something about it really. Enough is enough...........

Secondly, it would be nice if the subject matter website included the CCF.
 
#14
I........

Secondly, it would be nice if the subject matter website included the CCF.
Well it is about the ACF on the ACF site...

Is there not an CCF website?
 
#15
I feel the moderator should do something about it really. Enough is enough............
If a comment breaches the rules then MiB or I do act. What we don't do is go wading in to defend the honour of people who gip like a big girls blouse that the big boys on the playground are saying nasty things about them, you can choose to either respond in like manner or ignore it. Neither miB have the time or inclination to remove every comment you feel is too harsh, and besides, it would only encourage more of it as a wind up.
 
#16
If a comment breaches the rules then MiB or I do act. What we don't do is go wading in to defend the honour of people who gip like a big girls blouse that the big boys on the playground are saying nasty things about them, you can choose to either respond in like manner or ignore it. Neither miB have the time or inclination to remove every comment you feel is too harsh, and besides, it would only encourage more of it as a wind up.
True, woopert, just means we as ACF need to cope with it or up our level of sarcasm and respond as good as we get!!
 
#17
If a comment breaches the rules then MiB or I do act. What we don't do is go wading in to defend the honour of people who gip like a big girls blouse that the big boys on the playground are saying nasty things about them, you can choose to either respond in like manner or ignore it. Neither miB have the time or inclination to remove every comment you feel is too harsh, and besides, it would only encourage more of it as a wind up.
Well, having read more than enough "old enough to read, old enough to bleed" style and "all AIs are kiddy fiddlers" comments on this site, do you not see how damaging it is to the organisation? Furthermore, it is not me who should grow up. The management of kids (safeguarding and child protection) is a serious business and should be treated as so.

I was under the impression this forum was for discussing issues within the cadet world and not bullying, labeling AIs or to insight “fiddling” behaviour.
 
#18
errhmm.

1) Most ACF instructors are ex military and have done their time in the military. So if you're saying that we look like paedos then you know where you're heading or potentially going to be. Before we're recruited, we have a CRB check done on us before we're even near kids.

2) Yes I agree with the obesity thing, I have seen one rather large one and I wonder why this person is around considering if I wanted to send my child to that very detachment having to look at a fat instructor and my child taking after it.

3) It is ingrained into cadets and instructors that the ACF is not a recruiting tool for the army. They just wear a unifom and shoot the weapon and it keeps cadets off the streets. Compared to the time when I was guard commander and have 5 kids smashing up a church ruin on camp, I get the report, ask the innocent kids for names and then in came the parents where one is a SNCO asking me not to report the incident in the book. Naturally I reported it and the RasMan was told the next morning.
 
#19
errhmm.

1) Most ACF instructors are ex military and have done their time in the military. So if you're saying that we look like paedos then you know where you're heading or potentially going to be. Before we're recruited, we have a CRB check done on us before we're even near kids.

2) Yes I agree with the obesity thing, I have seen one rather large one and I wonder why this person is around considering if I wanted to send my child to that very detachment having to look at a fat instructor and my child taking after it.

3) It is ingrained into cadets and instructors that the ACF is not a recruiting tool for the army. They just wear a unifom and shoot the weapon and it keeps cadets off the streets. Compared to the time when I was guard commander and have 5 kids smashing up a church ruin on camp, I get the report, ask the innocent kids for names and then in came the parents where one is a SNCO asking me not to report the incident in the book. Naturally I reported it and the RasMan was told the next morning.
I would have to disagree with you and say that a small proportion of CFAV's are ex military.
It may be different where you are but in my experience the percentage is lower than you may imagine.
Our CCF has 4 of us out of 10 staff .The local ACF company has approx 10 out of 40 ,A neighbouring company from a different county has 4 out of 30 staff.
So you must be the exception to the rule.

Idle lazy Fat CFAV's are a poor advert for he cadet forces and Army.
 
#20
About 44% in my county are ex-forces. That's no small proportion.

2 of the fattest ACF staff I have ever met (who seriously, make me look anorexic) are not idle or lazy.

In fact if they were got rid of for vanity's sake, it would remove two very productive, popular and useful staff. And it would send a message to the kids that appearance is everything, and that fat people are worthless and can be treated with disdain and contempt.

We are due to roll out Values & Standards training in the ACF for all ranks and CFAVs soon. I'm wondering if it will convey the same message.

Edited to Add: The fattest of the 2 is an ex para.
 
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