New £100m coastguard helicopters

#1
A deal worth more than £100m, will see the Coastguard replace its fleet of seven helicopters with faster aircraft.
The Maritime and Coastguard Agency will lease seven aircraft from a Canadian operator to provide coverage for the south coast of England and in Scotland.

The new aircraft will replace the seven helicopters operating from Scotland's Stornoway and Sumburgh Lee-on Solent, Hants, and Portland in Dorset.



The MCA said it has signed a five-year interim contract with Canadian helicopter operator CHC Scotia to lease four Sikorsky S92 helicopters and three Agusta Bell AB139s to provide coverage from July 2007 to 2012.

The MCA want to replace the Sikorsky S61Ns which is this big :



for the new Agusta Bell AB139s, which is this big!

 
#2
I don't see the problem. The USCG operates a mix of Jayhawks and Dolphins (Dauphins). Both of which are considerably smaller than the HH-3 Pelicans (imagine a Stallion, but based around the Sea King design) they replaced.
 
#3
crabtastic said:
I don't see the problem. The USCG operates a mix of Jayhawks and Dolphins (Dauphins). Both of which are considerably smaller than the HH-3 Pelicans (imagine a Stallion, but based around the Sea King design) they replaced.
Not much room for a winch operator to move around with a stretcher bang in the middle of his work area. I will miss the noise of the Sikorsky buzzing over Southampton Water. :(
 
#5
TartanJock said:
Next thing will be to charge those who need rescuing plus VAT!
Chip & Pin only accepted Sir!!!
 
#6
india-juliet said:
crabtastic said:
I don't see the problem. The USCG operates a mix of Jayhawks and Dolphins (Dauphins). Both of which are considerably smaller than the HH-3 Pelicans (imagine a Stallion, but based around the Sea King design) they replaced.
Not much room for a winch operator to move around with a stretcher bang in the middle of his work area. I will miss the noise of the Sikorsky buzzing over Southampton Water. :(
Nobody said they'd necessarily be using that particular configuration. It looks like the pic you have is of an air ambulance. The cabin looks to be comparable in size to the HH-65.

As for the noise Sea Kings (or the S-61Ns) make- they don't "buzz" anywhere. On a related point, as it happens, they have a big problem with the amount of downwash from the main rotor- which can often make things, such as cliff rescues, rather 'exciting' for the victim.
 
#7
Nobody said they'd necessarily be using that particular configuration. It looks like the pic you have is of an air ambulance. The cabin looks to be comparable in size to the HH-65.
The pic I got is the actual Copter the Coastguard will be getting, minus the interior configuration.
 
#8
I've been watching the programme "Sea Rescue" recently.. (sad I know)..and the sikorsky's are falling apart. So far I think I have counted 3 emergency landings due to fault warnings and "Burning smells". Will they make it through the series?????...........

:p:p:p
 
#9
AF1771 said:
Will they make it through the series?????...........

:p:p:p
Perhaps they can make money by having a phone-in to vote off one of the aircrew each week.

They could be dumped out the side to be interviewed by Davina squatting in a Gemini.

Or even better; should this person be rescued? YOU DECIDE!
 
#10
AF1771 said:
I've been watching the programme "Sea Rescue" recently.. (sad I know)..and the sikorsky's are falling apart. So far I think I have counted 3 emergency landings due to fault warnings and "Burning smells". Will they make it through the series?????...........

:p:p:p[/quote

Well I can confirm the Lee-on-Solent CG Copter is still airworthy, It flew over my house yesterday!!
 
#11
There are a lot of things going on between now and then and it won't be a walk in the park for anyone buying either of these a/c for SAR: when will the 92 be delivered to UK operators, how long will it take to ready it for SAR, how quickly will they get CAA approval to fly with the specialised equipment they added and, the biggest worry no doubt, will they meet the contractual requirement at the cost they said? It's going to be tight.
 
#12
Cheap in the short term but when contract needs replacing it' quadruple. :eek: :eek:
Plus no other company would ever take it on because of bullshit regulations.


Saw a coast guard Sea king flyin over my farm at the weekend.
Been a long time since I seen one.

Sure hope it wasnt from across the Republic. Cross border institutions my ass.
 
#13
Roadless said:
Cheap in the short term but when contract needs replacing it' quadruple. :eek: :eek:
Plus no other company would ever take it on because of bullshit regulations.


Saw a coast guard Sea king flyin over my farm at the weekend.
Been a long time since I seen one.

Sure hope it wasnt from across the Republic. Cross border institutions my ass.
Do the Coastguard have Sea King copters, Ive never seen one!
 
#15
The Lord Flasheart said:
S61's. A longer civilian version of the Sea King.
As I suspected. I see the Lee-on-Solent copter quite often and thats certainly a S61
 
#16
Its about time they figure out and organise one SAR provider, and one chain of command or co ordination. I am not a SAR bunny, but see it this way, you have the RAF and the Fleet Air Arm providing SAR in some areas, and the Coast Guard in the south, which is crewed by a civi operator, unless i am mistaken.

So there is a Coast Guard HQ and they talk to the Mil (RAF or RN) Head Shed, who have the heli out there... may be one branch and one set of HQs will make the difference when seconds count and lives are at risk at sea etc!

Also as a secondary effect it might make the running costs a little lower as there would be one provider as opposed to 3 providers and so on?

It does not matter who runs it, RAF, RN or CG they will all do an excellent job, but lets have one system, not 3 at the same time.
 

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