Never mind Brits in Nam- what about Yanks in the Falklands?

You really are just a thick squaddie aren't you? Another of your ilk, a thick squaddie, decided to juice up his below average book with some pretty serious allegations of war crimes, including murder. Some other poor ******* had to waste a considerable amount of time and money establishing that it was bollocks.

Thick twats like you? I shit them!
Mind those splinters while sitting on that fence...

On a serious note I'd not heard of mercenaries being in the Falklands? I've done a quick search but Google is all "I heard" or "a bloke I know" quotes.
Is there a link to actual proof if them being there? I'm surprised a mercenary would have touched it with a stick.

I can see how during the heat of battle a few Argentinians would get dropped as they tried to surrender but lining prisoners up and slotting them after the battle? Just can't see that happening.
 
There were a lot of enquiries after Op Corporate. I am not aware of one that suggested there were mercenaries involved. If there were, where are the books, films etc, someone would have turned their experiences into money by now wouldn't they?

I was on the Jungle warfare course about four months after the Falklands and there were a lot of Paras and Marines on the course who had been Down South. The Paras came out with the odd tall story from time to time and the Booties usually muttered 'Bollocks!'
 
Same goes for killing prisoners. I really can't see that happening and no-one coming forward to report it in the 28 years following.

This book should be filed in the bin next to that book about SAS death squads in NI (omega I think it was called) oh and Tom Carews Jihad.
 
Sorry, late comer to this.

I remember all this being spoken about in hushed tones over lagers in the NAAFI shortly after the Falklands. There were allegedly either: official US military advisors to the Argies; or, Swiss Mercenaries training/leading mortar crews..........it depended who you were buying beers for.

Either way, after 30 years I think some relatives would have missed their nearest and dearest by now and mentioned it to someone.

A bigger problem were all the dodgy guns that came back with certain elements.
 
I remember all this being spoken about in hushed tones over lagers in the NAAFI shortly after the Falklands.
So do I and not a shred of evidence has ever been produced to support these stories. No yank relatives suing the MoD. No deathbed confessions from squaddies about to meet their maker. No pi$$ed paras letting slip about what they got up to, Nothing. IIRC, there was a police investigation in the 80's when these rumours first surfaced and no credible evidence was found.

Now the stories about "South African" consultants on Ascension Island helping the RAF to bomb Stanley airport - that's another story altogether.
 
Given the Argies sent plenty of their blokes to train in the US, American-accented English is no huge surprise.
 
Ex Colonial,

Stop spouting bollocks.

If you bothered to do some very minor research rather than just slagging off the Monkies you will find that prisoners were taken by the British at Arnhem.

Try:

Middlebrook, M. (1994): Arnhem 1944: The Airborne Battle. Page 375.
Turnbull, J & Hamblett, J. (1994): The Pegasus Patrol. Page 139.
Harclerode, P. (1994): Arnhem: A Tragedy of Errors. Pictures between pages 64 and 65

As for dealing with the Japs. Based on their treatment of allied POWs and their general inclination to fight to the death it is hardly suprising that almost no quarter was given or expected.

As for the two Royals who were booted out for abusing a prisoner, I feel the sentence was too harsh. However, the RMP involved can be proud that they did their duty rather than just go along with the criminal abuse of an unarmed prisoner. Unless you think that the British Army and Royal Marines should lower their standards to that of a tin pot South American dictatorship?
 
Christ this story has grown arms and legs over the years.

Its utter shite.

Vince Bramley did not witness the alleged "Yank Mercenary" incident and was told the "story" by a GPMG gunner from B Coy who repeated the story to the press some time after he was discharged. No one else from the Battalion saw the "event" and considering the gunner was part of a section, company, and Battalion group spread all over that feature it would have been impossible for it to have gone unnoticed.That ferkin story, and others like it led to most of us from the CO downwards being grilled by the Scotland Yard Serious Crimes Squad many years later and having unfounded allegations thrown at us. The subsequent inquiry must have run into the millions and for what? Some ********* war story. Yank mercenaries in the Falklands? Like ferk there was...
 
Christ this story has grown arms and legs over the years.

Its utter shite.

Vince Bramley did not witness the alleged "Yank Mercenary" incident and was told the "story" by a GPMG gunner from B Coy who repeated the story to the press some time after he was discharged. No one else from the Battalion saw the "event" and considering the gunner was part of a section, company, and Battalion group spread all over that feature it would have been impossible for it to have gone unnoticed.That ferkin story, and others like it led to most of us from the CO downwards being grilled by the Scotland Yard Serious Crimes Squad many years later and having unfounded allegations thrown at us. The subsequent inquiry must have run into the millions and for what? Some ********* war story. Yank mercenaries in the Falklands? Like ferk there was...
I regret mentioning the thing in the first place. It was clearly nonsense but the 'civil servants' I was talking to were both pretty convincing. As I mentioned I had heard the story in Aldershot years before and wrote it off it as cobblers. I shared a house a couple of years after the Falklands with 3 blokes from 9 Para who mentioned it but dismissed it as rubbish. Although their favourite tale was about a mate who had been shot in the arrse after the cease fire. A bloke in his section tripped and opened fire on the victims but-tocks with his SMG and gave him a new butt crack. For some reason this used to amuse them greatly.
 
Hi, that particular Argentine, 20-yearold Claudio Norberto Scaglione of Gun crew No4, he was a qualified laboratory technician and spoke fluent English., he was the only survivor from heavy machine gun position number four.
here are some passages from my book 'Three Days in June'

I was given a prisoner who was an Argentine marine he was pleading in perfect English, “Don’t kill me, please don’t kill me. I told him to calm down, we were not going to kill him, and I explained, “You will have to come with us, but you will get passed back to the rear shortly.” We then asked him to lead the way, and tell us where the officers were, but he said, “There are none, they've all gone into Stanley; they go every night.”He was very talkative and co-operative..

I held the prisoner by the arm and said,“I bet you’re ******* glad you learnt English, ” he was very scared and began pointing things out to us, he led the way up the western slope, and all the time there was sporadic gunfire and explosions coming from all around us; it was not safe in any direction.

We kept moving forward, and I now made contact with Cpl Graham Heaton and his section. By now he had acquired an Argentine prisoner whom we nicknamed ‘Pedro'; we slowly continued up to Fly Half where we consolidated.

I can speak a bit of Spanish, and I began to ask the prisoner questions about the strength of the enemy on the Mountain, where they were, etc. The prisoner was telling me everything we needed to know, even before I could finish my questions, so he was obviously in fear of his life and not prepared to wait until I had clumsily strung some of my questions together.

B Company HQ arrives on the western slope approximately 02.10hrs (zt). Shortly after this the prisoner (Pedro) is escorted down to the R.A.P area but during this move he breaks loose and runs, warnings were shouted, unfortunately lethal force was used and he was shot dead.

 
Hi, that particular Argentine, 20-yearold Claudio Norberto Scaglione of Gun crew No4, he was a qualified laboratory technician and spoke fluent English., he was the only survivor from heavy machine gun position number four.
here are some passages from my book 'Three Days in June'

I was given a prisoner who was an Argentine marine he was pleading in perfect English, “Don’t kill me, please don’t kill me. I told him to calm down, we were not going to kill him, and I explained, “You will have to come with us, but you will get passed back to the rear shortly.” We then asked him to lead the way, and tell us where the officers were, but he said, “There are none, they've all gone into Stanley; they go every night.”He was very talkative and co-operative..

I held the prisoner by the arm and said,“I bet you’re ******* glad you learnt English, ” he was very scared and began pointing things out to us, he led the way up the western slope, and all the time there was sporadic gunfire and explosions coming from all around us; it was not safe in any direction.

We kept moving forward, and I now made contact with Cpl Graham Heaton and his section. By now he had acquired an Argentine prisoner whom we nicknamed ‘Pedro'; we slowly continued up to Fly Half where we consolidated.

I can speak a bit of Spanish, and I began to ask the prisoner questions about the strength of the enemy on the Mountain, where they were, etc. The prisoner was telling me everything we needed to know, even before I could finish my questions, so he was obviously in fear of his life and not prepared to wait until I had clumsily strung some of my questions together.

B Company HQ arrives on the western slope approximately 02.10hrs (zt). Shortly after this the prisoner (Pedro) is escorted down to the R.A.P area but during this move he breaks loose and runs, warnings were shouted, unfortunately lethal force was used and he was shot dead.
Hope all is going well with you and the book Jimmy, I'm away for a while but when next home I will drag Mark and Chris up to Penny Lane and stand you a few beers if you are free.
 
I was at the PRA with Chris and Mark yesterday, were sharing a car to go the march in London on Friday,
take care, bye for now Jimmy
 

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