Negative feedback about the Infantry from mates in the army?

#1
I am joining the Infantry.........but I was curious why everyone I know in the Army is so negative about my decision!?

I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea but I get told theres no prospects or proper trades to learn that it takes forever to get promotion and that I'll be soldiering full time between Afghanistan and Iraq every year and not doing much else etc! Some I do not doubt is true.

But why are other personnel so negative about a career in the Infantry?

It's really got on my goat!!!
 
#2
Just join what you want to join. Too many blokes get hung up on what other people perceive these days. If you want to join the infantry then join them.
To be honest it doesn't really matter what you join in regards to Iraq and Afgan - everyone gets a stint!
 
#3
They haven't changed my mind but it was just a little demoralising that they were like "are you sure you want to go in the Infantry, I wouldn't" etc! "You'll be used and abused full time!" etc!!

Surely the Infantry demands more respect than that?
 
#5
No they are in the Army.........one's a RMP and some in Signal's. Hence why their opinion had me thinking a bit!
 
#7
Make your own mind up,I have been out a good few years but as I remember it everybody gets fecked about,and if you want to join the Infantry do it,I am sure you will meet some cracking lads and have the best years of your life with no regrets,good luck pal
 
#8
RHODESIAN said:
Make your own mind up,I have been out a good few years but as I remember it everybody gets fecked about,and if you want to join the Infantry do it,I am sure you will meet some cracking lads and have the best years of your life with no regrets,good luck pal
I certainly believe I will have some great times ahead of me in the Infantry and make some great friends.

The decision was already made......My gripe was why so much negative feedback from other serving soldiers I know?
 
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#9
You'll find alot of the people who knock the infantry have never been in an infantry unit.

People will tell you that you get nothing out of it, and your job prospects will been shit on leaving the forces. All you'll be is a bullet stopper etc etc.

You get out of the infantry what you put in. You can get qualifications, NVQs and the like if you want and the opertunity is there to do education in your own time aswell.

If you're that way inclined you can specalise in Signals, Anti-Tanks, Mortars, Driver, Assualt Pioneer or be a member of your regiments Corps of Drums/Pipes and Drums.

Some regiments (such as mine) also have tailors and a pioneer shop.

There will be times when you're cold and wet or hot and sweaty thinking this is shit, but it's the same in any job.
 
#10
Are they knocking the Infantry or is a just a job they'd be reluctant to undertake because of the risks associated with close combat fighting!!??
 
#11
Everyone has an opinion.

I am close to ending my 22 year career in the Infantry, if i had my time again would i have changed it......No!

I chose the Infantry because of the job, Soldiering at the highest level, i could have done RMP or Royal Signals, and i suppose at sometime in the past i have said
"are you sure you want to go in the RMP/Signals, I wouldn't"

Each to their own!

good luck fella!
 
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#12
I think it's easy to slag the Infantry off, people call us thick and that we could'nt do any other job and seem to think we only joined the Infantry because no one else would take us, which is bollocks.

Although, i must say it's i can count on one hand the amount of times someones said it to my face.
 
#13
Choose whatever you want to do, but do some research and find out why these people you know are knocking the infantry. As for close combat fighting, there are many other cap badges that get involved as well as the infantry, look at the 6 RMP that got slaughtered in Iraq. Have pride and total belief in what you are signing up to do. After 17 years in the mob, I can tell you that there are good and bad in all Regiments and Corps. As charliecharlie puts it, if you think you are going to have regrets then act now and do something else. There will undoubtedly be bad times but you will find that these are out numbered by the good times. Good luck in whatever you decide.
 
#14
Yer i agree, the amount of bad things i have heard, like its stupid and you will get no prosspects etc etc and that only dump people join and that you will get shit, tto be honest i don't really care.Im in the process of joining at the moment and all i can say is dont listen to them if you think it is right for you then join.
 
#15
Tell them to get lost. If they were Apache pilots they might have a point. Nig RMPs are traffic wardens and nig signallers guard headquarters, make tea and clean the toilets.

Be all you can be..
 
#16
I will be joining Infantry regardless of anyone's opinion. I just wanted to seek other peoples opinions too.

I can't wait.
 
#17
These are some of the points raised by other Bayonet Brethren. I think they very clearly identify what the infantry is all about. Wish I had written them myself!

SO3Paperclips said:
I love being an infantryman. I can see that being a tankie would be pretty cool and that being a sapper or a craftsman or a signaller would be challenging and more intellectually stimulating. Christ knows why anyone would be a gunner, but each to their own.

The feeling of:

kneeling on top of a Tor in the dark at 3am, temperature at -3c, knowing that no one has seen your approach.

clipping your skis on before skiing off into the Norweigen arctic, rifle across your chest.

the final O group before loading at the loading bay and heading into Basrah to kick some c#nt's door in

the spray of the jungle river as you plane up a river in Belize.

the rush of blood when the chain gun gets going

the feeling of team work when you're in shieldwall in public order

I have done it all..in the Infantry. Some corps men might have done some of it but not in 5 years' service.

The price you pay is:

hours in the cold and rain or the heat and the dust

very few transferrable skills

hours of waiting and preparing and notice to move

being treated like an inanimate object.

What do you want? Why join the Army? If you genuinely want to be the best and you want to be one of the rough men in the dark who keep the rest of society safe - the Infantry is the place to be.
xinflurker said:
Yes, loved it. Really, I did.

Fact is, the Infantry are the aristocracy of the battle field. Not taking anything away from any other arm but the Infantry is soldiering, pure and simple. Everything else isn't quite the thing. Even in this age of high technology, the Infantry still fight with Bayonets.. its not about the latest missile technology etc, it's about a bayonet and you on the end of it (not the wrong end I hasten to add, Infantry are often not the brightest of sparks but that's a fundamental to get right).

Regardless of what they do, every soldier looks up to the Infantry and at a deep unconcious level, in their lonely, vulnerable moments, they wish they were Infantry. It is the Infantry that set the standards and the Infantry that everyone else is there to support. They look up to the Infantry because in an organisation with hard men (and even harder women), the Infantry are at the centre, they have the hardest job and the shitest deal.

Disclaimer for REMFs reading this: you're all great and the Infantry couldn't do it without you. Well done, go and have a lolly pop.

Further disclaimer: I think I'm right in saying that the RAMC have more VC's than any other Regiment.. Put's things in perspective and shows what do I know!

Additional Disclaimer: I am drink-posting so may edit in the light of sobriety to appear less of a knob.
It is on this thread:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=82716/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html
 
#18
soldiertobe said:
I am joining the Infantry.........but I was curious why everyone I know in the Army is so negative about my decision!?

I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea but I get told theres no prospects or proper trades to learn that it takes forever to get promotion and that I'll be soldiering full time between Afghanistan and Iraq every year and not doing much else etc! Some I do not doubt is true.

But why are other personnel so negative about a career in the Infantry?

It's really got on my goat!!!
To try and give perspective.

I am an ex scaley. I rather liked my job/trade so much I did 24 years.

I cannot speak for your RMP mate but I can guess (within reason) why your scaley mate probably has that opinion (I also held it once). The R. Signals offers (some) trades that are directly transferable to well paid civilian jobs. The infantry does not do that (at the early stages [unless you count "mercenary" as a civilian job]).

Having said that. If you stay in long enough, the infantry will offer opportunities to develop yourself both with army courses such as HGV (as an example) and personal development (stuff you choose to do in your own time).

If you only intend to stay "in" for a relatively short time it will not matter who you join (when you leave) and you should therefore choose what you want to do. Correction. Just do what you want to do regardless. You will be happier that way.

Despite what some people have said on here the R. Signals is a good choice if you want it. You can get a lot of responsibility at a very young age in the signals. Having said that the infantry is also a fine choice if that suits you (sir).

To conclude: Do what you want to do. In reality no branch/corps/regiment/battalion is better than another for everyone. It all boils down to opinion/preference and only you knows what is right for you.

Good luck.
 
#19
A career in the Army is no joke. It's a serious commitment, not something for the feint hearted (excuse the pun).

However, you'll be told all this and potentially realise it wholly when & if you attend your selection. One army, it's all the same initially, and each unit works differently, so don't listen to people in other areas all the time.
 
#20
soldiertobe said:
No they are in the Army.........one's a RMP and some in Signal's. Hence why their opinion had me thinking a bit!
Sorry to tell you this ... but your mates are a pair of ballbags. One's a wannabe coppa and the other is a homo. Get yourself in the Infantry lad and feel proud about the job you'll be doing. Is going on tour a bad thing? It's what you join up to do isn't it?
 

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