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Need information about an old Barbour camouflage jacket

#1
Hello,
I'm Carlo from Italy and i recently came across this strange Barbour camouflage jacket.
Here are some pictures originally posted posted by the UK seller (I'm at work now, but, if needed, I'll provide pictures myself).












I'm looking for informations about this jacket, as I've never seen one like this before.
Was it a British Army issue?
I found an old topic in this forum about a DPM jacket Barbour made in 1984-85 called "the military".
link
Don't know know if it is the same jacket as the one above.
Any help will be much appreciated as I looked into the web but was not able to find any information about this jacket.
Greetings from Italy and apologize for my English!!!!
 

ugly

LE
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#3
That is the first version I think, the second version had chest pockets, I got mine from 2nd Field RA PRI for about 250 DM in 1984. They werent ever issued, well not on general release. The last version isnt as good. I have one and the pockets arent as well made as the model I bought first!
 

chimera

LE
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#4
The Barbour "Military" was popular in the mid 1980s before Goretex became widely available, as it was a million times better than the DPM crisp packet that was standard issue at the time. The version I have has both chest and waist pockets.

They rapidly faded out when Goretex was issued to the Field Army around 1987 and I don't think that Barbour make them anymore.

Still have mine somewhere though!
 
#5
Many, many thanks for all your answers!!!!!
My jacket has actually four pockets.
1 on the chest (on the left side)
2 on the waist
1 (big) inside.
I was asking information because, apart from the label (pictured) inside the jacket, there are no other Barbour's markings (like on the buttons).
So, as far as I understood, this limited-production Barbour's jackets were not UK Army standard issues (no military procurement but for the civilian market). Something you were allowed to privately purchase and wear?
Again, many thanks!
 
#6
basilio said:
Many, many thanks for all your answers!!!!!
My jacket has actually four pockets.
1 on the chest (on the left side)
2 on the waist
1 (big) inside.
I was asking information because, apart from the label (pictured) inside the jacket, there are no other Barbour's markings (like on the buttons).
So, as far as I understood, this limited-production Barbour's jackets were not UK Army standard issues (no military procurement but for the civilian market). Something you were allowed to privately purchase and wear?
Again, many thanks!
They weren't issued but a lot of people wore them as the issued waterproofs at the time were crap and not until Gore Tex was issued did people stop wearing them. Most of the blokes in my unit wore the Barbour Durham as it was lightweight and could fit in an ammo pouch.
 

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chimera

LE
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#7
Never issued. They were privately procured.

It is worth remembering that despite the current vogue for criticising our kit, it is far far better than in those days, when it would be quite common that everything that you wore or carried would be bought on the open market; e.g bergans (the old "SAS" pattern was good, but Berghaus etc were getting into the miliary market), waterproofs (pre Goretex issue), windproof smocks, fleece jackets, boots (the old DMS were still in issue), decent socks, sleeping bags, early versions of the goretex bivvi bag etc etc

And you try telling that to the young people of today..... :D :D :D

(edited for typos)
 
#8
chimera said:
Never issued. They were privately procured.

It is worth remembering that depsite the current vogue for criticising our kit, it is far far better than in those days, when it would be quite common that everything that you wore or carried would be bought on the open market; e.g bergans (the old "SAS" pattern was good, but Berhaus etc were getting into the miliary market), waterproofs (pre Goretex issue), windproof smocks, fleece jackets, boots (the old DMS were still in issue), decent socks, sleeping bags, early versions of the goretex bivvi bag etc etc

And you try telling that to the young people of today..... :D :D :D
The plastic socks were my favourites!
 
#9
Barbour did two DPM jackets, a "Combat" Jacket, and a DPM "Hunting" version of one of their civi jackets. That looks like the Hunting Jacket judging by the belt. I had the plain green version for many years, then gortex came out...
 

ugly

LE
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#10
The last one they sold was called the Rustic but it never appeared in any catalogue that I ever saw! I own one and much prefer the earlier one!
 

napier

LE
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Kit Reviewer
#12
I recently procured a barbour military on fleabay, the mid-80s version with cord collar and chest pockets. The colour is still good but I'm wary about using it too heavily as I'm sure it will turn black. Does anyone have any experience about reproofing one of these and whether the colours 'came back'?
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#13
I bought a rustic and I wear it sparingly so as to ensure it retains some colour. My one like yours I wore in the Falklands in 85 and I seem to recall a year or so later flogging it to a mate in Omagh for OC's LR top cover as it was almost black by then and we had goretex on issue to Recce.
 

napier

LE
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Kit Reviewer
#14
Cheers Ug, I think I'll get in touch with barbour and see what they say about colour retention/restoration. I saw the rustic in Gunwharf a couple of years ago (having wanted a military back in the mid 80s, but as a 6th former in the TA was too poor to get one) and failed to take the opportunity to get one. I'm quite keen to keep my 'new' one in good nick, but without treating it like a museum piece.
 
#16
chimera said:
Never issued. They were privately procured.

It is worth remembering that despite the current vogue for criticising our kit, it is far far better than in those days, when it would be quite common that everything that you wore or carried would be bought on the open market; e.g bergans (the old "SAS" pattern was good, but Berghaus etc were getting into the miliary market), waterproofs (pre Goretex issue), windproof smocks, fleece jackets, boots (the old DMS were still in issue), decent socks, sleeping bags, early versions of the goretex bivvi bag etc etc

And you try telling that to the young people of today..... :D :D :D

(edited for typos)
The Defence Clothing and Textiles Agency or DCTA (that funny waffle man label you find in your smocks) is generally recognised as about the only consistent success story of MOD procurement for the last 10-15 years.
 

ugly

LE
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#17
But the kit on issue now is as advanced compared to ours of the late 70's early 80's as ours was to 1940's BD.
No bad thing obviously!
 

napier

LE
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Kit Reviewer
#18
At the risk of thread resurrection, I picked this up today in TK Maxx as a winter dog walking type coat. It looks very much like an old arctic windproof, but is fully lined and waxed, with various handy pockets. I'd have preferred it not to be DPM, but it was cheaper than a barbour and looks like it'll last the course. Ralph Lauren of all things.
 
#19
At the risk of thread resurrection, I picked this up today in TK Maxx as a winter dog walking type coat. It looks very much like an old arctic windproof, but is fully lined and waxed, with various handy pockets. I'd have preferred it not to be DPM, but it was cheaper than a barbour and looks like it'll last the course. Ralph Lauren of all things.

Thats pretty bizarre!

It looks like they've found an old customised SASS or Arktis smock, and just copied it.
 

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