Need help choosing Regiment - by Monday!

#1
Hi guys,


I have finally passed ADSC and I have the weekend to make my decision on what regiment I want to join.

I wanted to join the Parachute regiment initially, but I messed up on the run - missed by a few seconds!

The choices for me are Grenadier Guards, Coldstream Guards or PWRR . Ill be 30 by the time I start training so I want to get it right

Would like some opinions and have a few questions:

A couple of people (serving soldiers) have said to go Coldstream over Grenadiers as they are less pedantic?

Quite a few posts on this forum refer to Guards having 'a lot of Bullsh*t'... What exactly is the BS?

Which unit is most likely to go to Afghanistan before 2014?

Also, I intent to be a lot fitter when I start basic. The Officer on ADSC told me I can try for Guards para platoon if I still want to do P company etc. I've also been told that its possible to get pinged to the parachute regiment during basic training. Are either of these realistic? (Assuming fitness isn't a problem then)

I have looked through quite a few threads, I know some of this will have been covered to some extent but I have to make this decision this weekend and would appreciate some input.

Thanks for reading
 
#2
A lot of people say the Guards is bullshit like the Gren's polishing the capbadge 3 times a day. Most of the Guards & Household Cavalry bullshit tends to be over traditions and old way, some other regiments tend to do stupid things like 1 RHA polishing the guns on their AS90's in Bosnia for no reason and it wasn't even practical.

I say Gren's or Coldstreamers, but I'm ex Guards, so I would, someone from the PWRR might be along to stick up for their own regiment and that's quite fair.

There is a point about the Guards para platoon. But where do you live? Gren's are usually Midlands and the North west, Coldstreamers are South and the North East (Cumbria tends to be Jock Guards). I don't know where the PWRR recruit from, Wales? but you're best going to a regiment that has lads local to you.

So I say - If the PWRR aren't local to you're area, or you've had no family in them, it's Guards - which one is on your area. If you are gutted that you missed the Para's, then Guards to try for the Para platoon.

If you're not fussy you missed the Para's and the PWRR are local to you, go for them.

Hope that helps a bit and good luck.

P.s. Bullshit tends to be refered to as things like Public duties - They can be hard work, but you live in London, best place on the piss and you'll always have some of the best photos to look back on the army has to offer
 
#3
Thanks for the response.

I am from Surrey so PWRR is my county regiment. I'm near london so I'm told that I can go for either Guards regiment.

I was gutted I didn't make the Para run time, especially as it was my own fault I didn't train as I know I should have.

I like the idea of taking part in ceremonial duties, the only thing I think sounds horrible is the sentry part. How long are they there for?!

I guess I wanted to go for something with a bit more prestige, so to speak.
 
#7
The Micks are from Liverpool! I think sentries are for 2 hour slots. Crow_Bag from the Gren's so he'll be able to give more info on that side. If you want Pomp and pride - Probably Coldstreamers in your neck of the woods? Public duties aren't that bad, plus they can give some relief from tours and excersise. I don't know how the Foot Guards work it, I think the Battalions do 6 month stints, you'll always find funny ways to pass the time!
It's been 11 years since left, but in HCR (Household Cavalry's armoured side) you would get support from the regiment to pass P company, training programmes from the barracks PTI. It might be different with the Guards independant parachute company, as they are losing men, but I doubt it. Only looks better on the Trooping of the Colour (very good day to do) when half of a companies men have wings and a rack of gongs!
Oh, on bullshit again - biggest load of crap I've seen - The RSM at Keogh barracks in 96 (Welsh guy) making platoon's of Sgt's march round in a squad. He said "The two ways around this camp are, you can run, or you can march". Guards is more about apperance and personal behaviour, I would say that they can make a gentleman of you! But everyone is naughty now and again!
 
#11
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Guards will carry a certain cachet later on.
 
#13
Cheers for all replies.

I'm told by my recruiter that I have to go for PWRR as they are my county regiment.

Giving serious consideration to just flipping a coin now.

Are there any major differences, day to day, between the Guards regiments?
 
#14
If it’s a tour in Afghan you want you better get in quick, Now NATO have announced that combat ops are to end in mid 2013 (Rather than the end of 2014) this only leaves Herrick 17 and Herrick 18 (half tour). As far as I’m aware the Grenadiers are out there now (H 16) so this counts them out. I’d look on the regimental web sites for updates on what the PWRR and Coldstream Guards are doing.
 
#16
I remember going through the whole recruiting process without a care or consideration for what I did or where I went too as there is no need, whatever the stakes, for prior preparation and planning in order to prevent piss poor performance, you see... halcien days indeed..

Flip a coin, PWRR are not a county regiment, they are a cunty regiment.... join the Glorious Corps you fool...!
The PWRR are tops and the boy's county Rgt.... less of the cunty Mr. Civvy RE. Anyhoo, who got the last VC gong? Certainly not you lot.
 
#18
I am not in the infantry nor will I try to recruit you into my part of the Army.

You should think about the following:

Both Guards regiments you are considering are primarily light role infantry. Both have public duties incremental companies in London in addition to their main battalions (each has a single battalion). What this means is that you are most likely to go to the incremental company in London first off to conduct public duties (marching around in London), before spending the rest of your career alternating between public duties and light role infantry (in simple terms light role infantry moves by foot rather than by vehicle). There is indeed a guards para platoon, but the chances of you (or indeed any other individual) getting into it are extremely low because it is very small and there are a lot of people (thousands) who are eligible to join it. I would suggest that you do not make your decision solely based on guards para, because you will probably be disappointed along the line. Both of these regiments recruit soldiers from right across the UK (to a greater or lesser extent) so you will not necessarily be surrounded by soldiers from the same part of the country (this may be good or bad). Both regiments are likely to stay based in the south of England which may be an advantage for you.

The PWRR is a two battalion regiment, one battalion is light role and the other is armoured (think the warrior armoured vehicle). This means you could do either light role or armoured infantry or potentially swap between them. PWRR does not routinely do ceremonial duty unless it is based in London. Being your local regiment, you would be surrounded by people largely from the same area of the UK as you. Have a look at where the two PWRR battalions are based, I think one (2PWRR) cycles between London and Cyprus every few years while the other (1PWRR) is either in Germany or the UK (I can't remember which) where it operates in the armoured infantry role.

Hopefully a little unbiased advice for you. At least this might give you a few ideas for questions to ask at the recruiting office.

The health warning that comes with this advice is that the army is changing and about to change even more, so the advice given by me and others may be irrelevant in a year or twos time.
 
#19
Feck this lots advice young himshe... join the glorious Corps of Engineers...

Or choose based on something you can take pride in... so not PWRR.




Edited to add - Good on you sunshine, and best of luck whatever you choose old boy.
You're being reduced by 30%. Besides that the OP is nearly 30, not really a good age to be a shiny Sapper.
 

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