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Need a decent 4x4

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Only ever used goodrich mud tyres and while excellent off road, needed ear defenders on road. report back if you find a better, cheaper alternative
BFG ATs

Never had a problem I fitted them in 2006/7 and was forced to replace them this year as they had started to crack - the LR havig been laeyd up between a broken engine and Covid for over a year - Although they were perhaps die replacement as wear was over 50% (LR now 6-8mm taller)and they were losing effectivity in clay.
over a 120K miles - Deserts rocks mud roads bogs snow - you name it they did it.

Far better on road than MTs and never let me down off road.
 

Scratcher90

Old-Salt
Mitsubishi L200?
Isuzu Trooper - old but reliable and cheap. 3.0 TD is an excellent engine.
The excellent,reliable 3.0 TDi trooper engine that overnight destroyed Isuzu's reputation for building decent 4x4s?
That had six recalls in the first two years to try to correct exploding engines - so bad that Isuzu looked at recalling and scrapping the lot to stem the gigantic warranty repair bill?
That has clever design features like running the brake lights and the ECU on the same fuse so if you blow a bulb the engine dies?
I've had two, but I know how to nurse them along, and I have access to a mechanic who really knows them and (extemely important) has an Isuzu Tech2 scanner to read the fault codes.

For the OP - if you're daft enough to take advice from internet experts - deploy your barge-pole on the 3.0 but the previous 3.1 Trooper was bullet-proof. Unfortunately, they're at least 20 years old now so good ones are harder to find.
People are putting 3.1 engines in 3.0 chassis and using them for serious off-roading and if you can find a sound 3.1 or 3.0/3.1 conversion, you'll get an excellent off-road vehicle with a massive boot capacity and a 3.5 tonne towing weight for not a lot of dosh.. There's an activre Isuzu Trooper owners group and a Trooper mart on facebook that are worth a look.
 

cymraeg

War Hero
The excellent,reliable 3.0 TDi trooper engine that overnight destroyed Isuzu's reputation for building decent 4x4s?
That had six recalls in the first two years to try to correct exploding engines - so bad that Isuzu looked at recalling and scrapping the lot to stem the gigantic warranty repair bill?
That has clever design features like running the brake lights and the ECU on the same fuse so if you blow a bulb the engine dies?
I've had two, but I know how to nurse them along, and I have access to a mechanic who really knows them and (extemely important) has an Isuzu Tech2 scanner to read the fault codes.

For the OP - if you're daft enough to take advice from internet experts - deploy your barge-pole on the 3.0 but the previous 3.1 Trooper was bullet-proof. Unfortunately, they're at least 20 years old now so good ones are harder to find.
People are putting 3.1 engines in 3.0 chassis and using them for serious off-roading and if you can find a sound 3.1 or 3.0/3.1 conversion, you'll get an excellent off-road vehicle with a massive boot capacity and a 3.5 tonne towing weight for not a lot of dosh.. There's an activre Isuzu Trooper owners group and a Trooper mart on facebook that are worth a look.

What scratcher said. I've gone down this route with mine trying to future proof it as much as possible (until they ban diesel).

Yup while the 3.0 engine was a great concept it is a ******* mare if it gets put of bed the wrong side.

As to mine. The plan i followed was to find a rot free late model 3.0. Had the engine changed to the earlier 3.1 and also a single mass flywheel conversion (dmfs are a grand on these) while retaining the better 3.0 gearbox.

Lifted her slightly and running 32 inch bf goodrich ko2's. She won't win any races but will happily sit at 75 on a run (tho 65 is a bit better on fuel) has excellent driving position and visibility and will take me anywhere. Using it as my daily work , shooting truck, 7 seat take family dogs and even the bath truck. She is returning about 27 mpg
 
looked at an old hilux surf gen 3 yesterday, 1996!, still going strong but in need of a fair bit of care, anything made of rubber except the tyres seems original and needs replacing, rear exhaust pipe has fallen off but the guy selling it had not even noticed. Drives great though but it's near the end of its life.


The guy selling it specialises in used 4x4's and said that since the 1st lockdown, the market has gone crazy and good ones are really hard to find. All he can get hold of is old junk for the most part.

Also a trend at the minute with Africans buying up anything and everything to ship back there, particularly old Toyotas.

I'm going to bide my time i think and see what else surfaces
 

cymraeg

War Hero
I'm about 6 grand into my trooper build inc initial purchase of vehicle, engine conversion 5 new wheels an tyres plus a major service and sundry items
 

OneTenner

LE
Book Reviewer
Disco 2`s are TD5 or V8 , not 300TDI .
There were a fair few export Disco 2's with 300TDi (Global & SHB bought lots), similarly, there are Disco 4's with 2.7 TDV6 rather than 3.0l for some markets, mainly with manual 'box.
 

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