Nazi Gangs in the US Military

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syledis

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#2
I remember a tv show where it showed the captain of a US carrier and he had to have an escort when he went to the lower decks and the racial segregation had to be seen to be believed
 
#4
Interesting article about the rise of right wings gangs in the US military from todays Guardian

The modern US army: unfit for service? | World news | The Guardian
I can guarantee you he had no Nazi tattoos before Joining as that is a Bar to enlistment since 1996. The Army also looks out for and discharges Nazi's, Klansman, Black Supremacists, Gang Members White, Asian, Hispanic, Black... all get the boot if identified. You are checked at SRP's for such tattoos.


By the way James Douglas Ross was NOT an Officer as the Guardian says. Officers do not get Bad Conduct Discharges only enlisted men do. Officers are separated from the service, cashiered you lot call it. anther telling level of less than truthful reporting.

And he has nothing to tie the "Kill team" or the NCO who walked out of a FOB and murdered civilians to Neo Nazis. it seems he just throws a melange of criminal acts by a few into one big wish bowl of British yellow Journalism.
By the way I love how he wrongly perpetuates the Myth that thse who serve are just poor uneducated and Minority. He really has no clue to the actual demographics.

http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/docs/demographics/FY11_ARMY_PROFILE.pdf

62% of Army EM have a HS Diploma compared to 57% among the general population
 
#5
I remember a tv show where it showed the captain of a US carrier and he had to have an escort when he went to the lower decks and the racial segregation had to be seen to be believed
That was 1972 on the USS Kitty Hawk Captain Oberg. How many Black British Guardsmen were there in 1972? or even in general among the regiments? things change, especially from 40 years ago.
 
#8
It's in the Guardian.

I wouldn't wipe my arse on that lefty wankfest.
 
#9
Black street gangs wormed there way onto US army estates in the 80's, no go areas, gang colours, the works.
Gangs are always a problem. Having lived on bases in Texas, Kentucky, New York they are in no way like Compton. First of all you have to work together. Some Nazi isn't going to last long before EO complaints and the Chain of Command, CID start processing him for discharge. Neither is some Black Panther type or Cripp.

I knew a Kid who had passed Special Forces "Q' Course and within months was discharged out when his predilection for Nazism came out, this was 1983. Guy was nuts even had the Gall to say the SS didn't execute Americans at Malmedy, that that was Jewish slander. Last I knew of him he was in upstate NY sitting in Attica Prison with Many Blacks.

I've seen far more idiots discharged for Alcohol and Drug Issues. The best was a soldier from the Bn caught in Uniform in Maricopa county with 17 dufflebags of weed. That's Sheriff Joe Arpaio country. Bn. CSM told him he hopes he likes Bologna sandwiches and pink underwear and oh by the way your ass is dishonorably discharged.
 

Goatman

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#11
GBricker,

just so you know, re The Guardian - think of the furthest Left Democrat you've ever met....now move to HIS left...yup, that's Guardian turf RIGHT there.

Historically, it has been the home for tired Socialists,Marxists, Maoists, Social Service workers and sandal wearing vegetarian crochet-your-own macrobiotic yoghurt merchants since ...uh...forever....so much so that there used to be a cartoon strip parodying the average Guardianista by Posy Simmonds

The average Guardian journo doesn't need to be SHOWN pictures of soldiers eating babies -it's one of their well-known credos,sorta axiomatic?

That said, it is not down there with the National Enquirer - uses long words and everything ( if occasionally mipsellt )

About the main fishwrappers in Britain it was once upon a time said:

The Times is read by the people who run the country
The Guardian is read by people who think THEY ought to be running the country
-and The Sun is read by people who don't care WHO runs the country, as long as she has big t1ts.
 
#12
And the FT is read by people who own the country...

The Guardian did indeed once run with its own title misspelt!!! Wan't that in the Manchester Guardian days?

Having said that, the Daily Mail online version seems to rack up a fair few errors.
 

BuggerAll

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#13
The Telegraph is read by people who think they still run the country.

The Mail is read by people who think they used run the country but now its run by immigrants and they're bloody angry about it.

The Record is read by people who don't care who run your country but want our country back ya' bass.

Wales doesn't have any newspapers, they can barely grunt without dribbling they certainly can't read.

The Economist is read by those who actually run things.
 
#14
The Telegraph is read by people who think they still run the country.

The Mail is read by people who think they used run the country but now its run by immigrants and they're bloody angry about it.

The Record is read by people who don't care who run your country but want our country back ya' bass.

Wales doesn't have any newspapers, they can barely grunt without dribbling they certainly can't read.

The Economist is read by those who actually run things.

With the Welsh and the Cornish being the true Brits it doesn't really matter what the English think.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#15
GBricker,

just so you know, re The Guardian - think of the furthest Left Democrat you've ever met....now move to HIS left...yup, that's Guardian turf RIGHT there.

Historically, it has been the home for tired Socialists,Marxists, Maoists, Social Service workers and sandal wearing vegetarian crochet-your-own macrobiotic yoghurt merchants since ...uh...forever....so much so that there used to be a cartoon strip parodying the average Guardianista by Posy Simmonds

The average Guardian journo doesn't need to be SHOWN pictures of soldiers eating babies -it's one of their well-known credos,sorta axiomatic?

That said, it is not down there with the National Enquirer - uses long words and everything ( if occasionally mipsellt )

About the main fishwrappers in Britain it was once upon a time said:

The Times is read by the people who run the country
The Guardian is read by people who think THEY ought to be running the country
-and The Sun is read by people who don't care WHO runs the country, as long as she has big t1ts.
And yet The Guardian has produced some of the most pro-soldier articles of any of the UK's press in the last 20 years. And they don't do it in the style of the "Supporting Our Boys" Sun either.

That they question what happens in the UK and our Allies' Forces soesn't make them a force for bad.
 
#16
I can guarantee you he had no Nazi tattoos before Joining as that is a Bar to enlistment since 1996. The Army also looks out for and discharges Nazi's, Klansman, Black Supremacists, Gang Members White, Asian, Hispanic, Black... all get the boot if identified. You are checked at SRP's for such tattoos.
As I said in the previous thread in the US forum--a skinhead who somehow made it past MEPS was cut from my platoon at MCRD Parris Island within the first two weeks. One day he was there, the next day, gone.
 
#17
The Telegraph is read by people who think they still run the country.

The Mail is read by people who think they used run the country but now its run by immigrants and they're bloody angry about it.

The Record is read by people who don't care who run your country as long as they're no a bunch o' fuckin' Taigs, but want our country back ya' bass.

Wales doesn't have any newspapers, they can barely grunt without dribbling they certainly can't read.

The Economist is read by those who actually run things.
Fixed. No need to thank me.^_~
 
#18
Granted this is going back more than 20 years but I remember a USMC aviator getting very, very uptight when questioned about race issues within his squadron when giving a presentation.

And I don't mean uptight as in embarrassed, more jutting chin and evil eye. Young as I may have been at the time, I knew it was one of those debates you just don't get involved in.
 
#19
There are knuckleheads in any large organization. I worked under a Staff Sergeant who hated white boys. Oh well.

At the same time, when I was promoted to Corporal, a fellow Marine whom I'd known way back since "A" School, was promoted alongside me. He told me, "Tonight I'm taking you to where the brothas watch the sistas dance," and took me into the War Zone downtown where we drank Colt .45 and got lactated on by a black woman on stage. Good fun.

You get bad sorts on both sides, but plenty of good sorts.
 
#20
I can guarantee you he had no Nazi tattoos before Joining as that is a Bar to enlistment since 1996. The Army also looks out for and discharges Nazi's, Klansman, Black Supremacists, Gang Members White, Asian, Hispanic, Black... all get the boot if identified. You are checked at SRP's for such tattoos.


By the way James Douglas Ross was NOT an Officer as the Guardian says. Officers do not get Bad Conduct Discharges only enlisted men do. Officers are separated from the service, cashiered you lot call it. anther telling level of less than truthful reporting.

And he has nothing to tie the "Kill team" or the NCO who walked out of a FOB and murdered civilians to Neo Nazis. it seems he just throws a melange of criminal acts by a few into one big wish bowl of British yellow Journalism.
By the way I love how he wrongly perpetuates the Myth that thse who serve are just poor uneducated and Minority. He really has no clue to the actual demographics.

http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/docs/demographics/FY11_ARMY_PROFILE.pdf

62% of Army EM have a HS Diploma compared to 57% among the general population
I hate to say it, but I agree with you. In the article (as I remember it), the writer blames Bush for relaxing entry quotas for the US Army, saying that 23% of entrants were physically unfit prior to Bush, and 26% after. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not a statistically significant difference. A poorly written, alarmist article (though extracted from a book- maybe that was better).
 
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