naval eurofirghter on the cards

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  1. Gents it appears that the head of the eurofigher sales dept has advised the indian navy they can offer a full navalised eurofighter to operate of the new carriers for india, which are some what smaller then our new carriers, in fact BAE had been testing this option back in the mid 90s see below

    In fact, he pointed out, Eurofighter is the only aircraft among the six contenders for the IAF order which would have thrust vectoring capability in the coming years. Thrust vectoring capability allows an aircraft to stand still in the air, and takeoff and land even in vertical mode like a helicopter.

    Some 200 Eurofighters have been produced so far, predominantly to meet the requirements of participating nations which include Germany, Britain, Spain and Italy.

    Thrust vectoring is being developed and would be operational on Eurofighters within the first half of the next decade, Dr Schmidlin said.
  2. What drugs have you been using?
  3. meridian

    meridian LE Good Egg (charities)

    HA HA HA
  4. Not quite true on the thrust vectoring. Given sufficient deflection (90 degrees) you could do VSTOL. The EuroJet thrust vectoring is currently to about 23.5 degrees. This gives increased agility but nowhere near enough for VSTOL/STOVL.

    meridian - it does allow that - if you can get enough of it and control it.
  5. Wow.

    Are you ok?
  6. Two points…

    TVC is NOT STVOL… nothing like it. The Typhoon cannot hover of stop in the air… period

    You cannot navalize a Typhoon withou a very expensive and huge redesign that would include a new wing. new strengthened undercarriage as well as a strengthened fuselage.

  7. Nope, even if you fitted some 90 degree nozzles to the arse end of the Typhoon, all you would produce would be a jet powered cartwheel machine, no forward lift or attitude control systems
  8. Also doesnt a lot of the metallurgy change to get rid of Magnesium alloys in the aircraft as well ???
  9. I honestly dont know what to say about this, Firstly you mentioned most of this in the F35 thread you started except now you've mentioned even more imaginary stuff. VTOL Typhoon indeed :roll: .
  10. Having spoken to someone who was on the Carrier IPT, IIRC he said they did a study on making Eurofighter a carrier aircraft. catapult launch and conventional recovery, no VTOL madness.

    The main problem was to strengthen the aircraft so it can cope with being slammed onto a deck everytime it lands and being able to fold the wings to fit it inside the ship, meant adding so much weight it would be reduced to carrying a weapon load similar to that of a wood pigeon.
  11. Instint yes pc playing up when first posted it did not show up so i posted again and trying to delete one of the threads but cant seem to find the button
  12. edited due to DII causing a double post
  13. meridian

    meridian LE Good Egg (charities)

    Knights, not saying your mate was wrong or anything but the Rafale M has no folding wings and has a wingspan of 11m or so, the same as the Typhoon.

    Rafale M has a weight of 9.5 tonnes and thrust of 150KN

    Assuming the Rafale M has a suitably strong airframe, the Typhoon has a weight of 11 tonnes and thrust of 180KN

    There seem to be many reasons why people say a naval Typhoon is not a viable option but I wonder if they are the ones with a stake in JCA?

    I dont really have an opinion but I do know that thrust vectoring, as envisaged for the Typhoon, is definitely not capable of providing a vertical take off and landing capability. Remember the F35B/JCA has a massive lift fan
  14. It wasn't the wings so much but strengthening the undercarriage and fuselage is where most of the weight penalty occurs.

    They can do it, it will take off, fly and land, but it was the payload that suffered very badly.