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NATO disunity on display.

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Kromeriz, May 26, 2017.

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  1. Kromeriz

    Kromeriz On ROPs

    Was it just Trump, berating other NATO members in public, pulling someone out of the way so he can stand at the front or refusing to shake the hand of the Lithuanian Prime Minister afterwards:



    Or was it this move by Macron


    That shows to opponents just how divided the political leaders of NATO are?

    Furthermore, commitment to Article 5 was unspoken...

    Crisis in NATO?
     
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  2. How's the Warsaw pact going @Kromeriz?
    Are you jealous because you only have the Collective Security Treaty Organization?
     
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  3. Kromeriz

    Kromeriz On ROPs

    What are you wibbling about?
     
  4. Trump's right, others enjoy the protection of NATO, yet hide behind the few that pay their fair share.
     
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  5. Kromeriz

    Kromeriz On ROPs

    However, Trump bullies people, insults people and only Macron has managed to withstand his bullying handshake... although at least he offered his hand...

    The question though is should NATO disunity be on display so publicly?
     
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  6. Why not ? It might be a kick up the backside that gets them to spend the two percent, then everyone will be singing on the same hymn sheet.
     
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  7. NATO's kick up the backside is well overdue.
     
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  8. Yes otherwise it will emulate the EU with everybody saying all is well - when it isn't.
     
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  9. Dont worry - Jezza will be along soon to deliver it

     
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  10. FORMER_FYRDMAN

    FORMER_FYRDMAN LE Book Reviewer

    Trump's right on this issue but I never expected to see a US President heaving an allied foreign leader out of the way. Neither, I suspect, did his Summit colleagues.

    The whole harangue probably played well in the US though.
     
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  11. Maybe - just maybe - if the countries closest to and most likely to be affected by Russia don't see enough reason to spend more on defence against it, the threat posed by Russia has been over-egged?

    At the very least, it's their decision to make - just as US participation is theirs.
     
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  12. FORMER_FYRDMAN

    FORMER_FYRDMAN LE Book Reviewer

    There's the usual wriggle room but the expenditure decision was made by them (point 14).

    http://www.nato.int/cps/ic/natohq/official_texts_112964.htm
     
  13. When they were all walking up the carpet, should it not be in slow motion with some kind of heroic music in playing in the background like in an Avengers movie or Guardians of the Galaxy?

    Or change the music to 'Send in the Clowns'.
     
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  14. And maybe - just maybe - the cabbage guzzling feckers have got away with not spending enough on their own defence whilst being subsidized by other nations within NATO.
     
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  15. Interesting reporting on German TV, one commentator described the other leaders as "standing around like a bunch of wet poodles". Trump is right and the others know it.
     
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