NATO disunity on display.

#1
Was it just Trump, berating other NATO members in public, pulling someone out of the way so he can stand at the front or refusing to shake the hand of the Lithuanian Prime Minister afterwards:


Or was it this move by Macron

That shows to opponents just how divided the political leaders of NATO are?

Furthermore, commitment to Article 5 was unspoken...

Crisis in NATO?
 
#2
How's the Warsaw pact going @Kromeriz?
Are you jealous because you only have the Collective Security Treaty Organization?
 
#4
Trump's right, others enjoy the protection of NATO, yet hide behind the few that pay their fair share.
 
#5
Trump's right, others enjoy the protection of NATO, yet hide behind the few that pay their fair share.
However, Trump bullies people, insults people and only Macron has managed to withstand his bullying handshake... although at least he offered his hand...

The question though is should NATO disunity be on display so publicly?
 
#6
However, Trump bullies people, insults people and only Macron has managed to withstand his bullying handshake... although at least he offered his hand...

The question though is should NATO disunity be on display so publicly?
Why not ? It might be a kick up the backside that gets them to spend the two percent, then everyone will be singing on the same hymn sheet.
 
#7
NATO's kick up the backside is well overdue.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#10
Trump's right on this issue but I never expected to see a US President heaving an allied foreign leader out of the way. Neither, I suspect, did his Summit colleagues.

The whole harangue probably played well in the US though.
 
#11
Why not ? It might be a kick up the backside that gets them to spend the two percent, then everyone will be singing on the same hymn sheet.
Maybe - just maybe - if the countries closest to and most likely to be affected by Russia don't see enough reason to spend more on defence against it, the threat posed by Russia has been over-egged?

At the very least, it's their decision to make - just as US participation is theirs.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#12
#13
When they were all walking up the carpet, should it not be in slow motion with some kind of heroic music in playing in the background like in an Avengers movie or Guardians of the Galaxy?

Or change the music to 'Send in the Clowns'.
 
#14
Maybe - just maybe - if the countries closest to and most likely to be affected by Russia don't see enough reason to spend more on defence against it, the threat posed by Russia has been over-egged?

At the very least, it's their decision to make - just as US participation is theirs.
And maybe - just maybe - the cabbage guzzling feckers have got away with not spending enough on their own defence whilst being subsidized by other nations within NATO.
 
#15
Interesting reporting on German TV, one commentator described the other leaders as "standing around like a bunch of wet poodles". Trump is right and the others know it.
 
#16
However, Trump bullies people, insults people and only Macron has managed to withstand his bullying handshake... although at least he offered his hand...

The question though is should NATO disunity be on display so publicly?
When others in NATO pony up the money maybe they wont get such a hard ride.
 
#17
Lets not forget that that followed an earlier agreement on 2% in Riga, in 2006:

"In 2006 NATO ministers agreed that: "Allies who currently devote to defense a proportion of GDP which is at or above 2% should aim to maintain the current proportion. Nations whose current proportion of GDP devoted to defense is below this level should halt any decline in defense expenditures and aim to increase defense spending in real terms within the planning period. (DPC-D(2006)0004, 7 June 2006)"
 
#18
When they were all walking up the carpet, should it not be in slow motion with some kind of heroic music in playing in the background like in an Avengers movie or Guardians of the Galaxy?

Or change the music to 'Send in the Clowns'.
Imperial March Star Warts?

They are limp dicks they know that only us and America will turn up to a shooting march.
Say what you like about Trump but he's spot on over this one.
 
#19
Just seen on TV Martin Schulz engaging in a bit of Trump bashing about his handling of supposedly allied heads of state in such a humiliating manner. Spot on Martin, it was humiliating and deservedly so.
 
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