Nasty little youths that know all the rules

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I have living near me a young lad whose parents have little or no control over him. He has mates that are even worse. They insist on playing on a playpark for kids up to 5 yrs old and ignore all requests to leave. Just lately they have been very rude to my daughters making very suggestive remarks.

I suggested that one of them Bugg*r off the other day and he looked me in the eye and said'
You should not swear at me you are not allowed to.' - he having previously been swearing like a trooper.

What can I do about the little peasants - legally. I can think of a thousand things that I would like to do to them and all are illegal and very painful if not terminal but the legal options appear so limited if any are there at all.

Apparently on the estated where the older youths come from an ASBO is seen as a proficiency bagde!!

Any ideas. The majority of the really bad ones live on the estate next to my patch but appear to enjoy our patch better.
 
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Emigrate?

msr
 
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I had an annoying little scrot (similar to those mentioned) living at the end of the entry road into my cul-de-sac........... his chosen location to play, boot his football and generally annoy me and the neighbours. Slowly but surely, his bike, his footballs (about 6 over a course of 2 weeks), his football net, his skates and his bike-ramp all strangely vanished..........and now, so has he ! I dont have a clue where they could have gone......smirk.
 
#7
You could always try ringing the police and say you suspect they are selling drugs to other kids, bit of a bastard thing to do, but hey what the heck, scumbags need to be sorted out!
 
#8
Wind 'em up and when they try to hit you, tw@t them and claim self-defence :D
 
#9
When you say patch, do you mean an army pad? If so the MoD Police may be more interested them than the locals.
 
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http://www.nfh.org.uk/forums/

You may find some usefull information on this site.
I have suffered for 4 years at the hands of a disgruntalled neigbour. The day I snapped (a week ago) I became the guilty party.
You have to tread realy carefull with this sort of thing but this site ,will im sure, help you as it did me.

Good luck :wink:
 
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Resurgam said:
I have living near me a young lad whose parents have little or no control over him. He has mates that are even worse. They insist on playing on a playpark for kids up to 5 yrs old and ignore all requests to leave. Just lately they have been very rude to my daughters making very suggestive remarks.

I suggested that one of them Bugg*r off the other day and he looked me in the eye and said'
You should not swear at me you are not allowed to.' - he having previously been swearing like a trooper.

What can I do about the little peasants - legally. I can think of a thousand things that I would like to do to them and all are illegal and very painful if not terminal but the legal options appear so limited if any are there at all.

Apparently on the estated where the older youths come from an ASBO is seen as a proficiency bagde!!

Any ideas. The majority of the really bad ones live on the estate next to my patch but appear to enjoy our patch better.
Two words for you........air........rifle.
 
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I'd agree with the above post about video evidence.
The trick is to wind them up first so you pull out your handy cam corder just as the torrent of abuse and obscenities fly your way.
The police will have to take action as there would be supportive evidence.
Another thing to do is to get the other residents to sign a petition and agree to collect evidence against them.
If its a council house its even easier, just keep reporting them to the local council they'll be forced to sort it out or move them on.
 
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I had issues with kids near me. They were chucking eggs at pretty much anything that moved and one or two things that didn't, including the windows of houses, mine was one that was hit. They caused other sundry noise and trouble to boot.

The first time I knew about it though was when they chucked one at my car as I drove past. Damn those brakes are good. Anyway I managed to get a name and over a period of about two weeks I got enough info to find out roughly where they lived. I spoke to two women who claimed not to know the two names I gave but that was 8 months ago and there has been no trouble since.

If you get the oportunity to speak to the perents and put on your best p!ssed off but resonable old squaddie act with no room for them move let alone speak, they very often cave in under the pressure. You can threaten without actually threatening if you see what I mean.

On the other hand you might still find parents who don't actually care either and will just give you attitude in which case at least you have an address for the police along with all the other information you can gather.
 
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You need to be very carefull with video evidence .
1 it must be filmed on a date time format film.

2 you can not film people in public places (invasion of privacy)

3 if they are under a certain age a claim against you can be made

4 the poeple you are filming must be aware of you filming them.

The whole situation is a farce.
I have a video of someone running away from my range rover as it caught light outside my house. The police say taht isnt enough evidence for a conviction as the person wasnt seen striking the match. The CPS would throw it out before it go to court.

I think maybe the CPS stands for Criminal Protection Service
 
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sedanman32 said:
You need to be very carefull with video evidence .
1 it must be filmed on a date time format film.

2 you can not film people in public places (invasion of privacy)

3 if they are under a certain age a claim against you can be made

4 the poeple you are filming must be aware of you filming them.

The whole situation is a farce.
I have a video of someone running away from my range rover as it caught light outside my house. The police say taht isnt enough evidence for a conviction as the person wasnt seen striking the match. The CPS would throw it out before it go to court.

I think maybe the CPS stands for Criminal Protection Service

Blimey, theres always a friggin loophole.

Okey doke, go with the tried and tested air rifle or organic machinery with big teeth aka a large unfriendly dog.
I'd go for a Japanes Akita, looks evil enough, it is the size of a small bear and they can be trained to dislike the same people as the owner :D
 
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sedanman32 said:
You need to be very carefull with video evidence .
1 it must be filmed on a date time format film.

2 you can not film people in public places (invasion of privacy)

3 if they are under a certain age a claim against you can be made

4 the poeple you are filming must be aware of you filming them.

The whole situation is a farce.
I have a video of someone running away from my range rover as it caught light outside my house. The police say taht isnt enough evidence for a conviction as the person wasnt seen striking the match. The CPS would throw it out before it go to court.

I think maybe the CPS stands for Criminal Protection Service
:p

the above points are largely tosh..... I make my living filming people surreptitiously - mainly fraudulent insurance claims, but occasionally cheating spouses - and the only thing that he would have to be careful of is the potential problems arising from videoing children, but with mitigating circumstances even that can be worked around.

as to the above points:

1.You dont need to have a time/date function on the camera but it would certainly help (although every one knows you can make them say whatver time and date you want - not like they are synch'd with the atomic clock).

2. complete nonsense - I have filmed people in their own front garden and it has stood up to lawyers/courtroom standards. Filming someone in their bathroom, or where you had to scale a tree to see over a wall is a different matter - the key phrase would be "reasonable expectation of privacy".

3. see initial comment

4. utter bollocks!
 
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brettarider said:
If you can video them trashing the place or phone the coppers telling them they are drinking ect in the park they'll soon shift them on
Until the next time though. It's only a temporary resolution. (if the bizzies even come at all)
 
#19
Pompey_jock is quite correct, I too am in the investigative game and film people in public places all the time, its when you film them inside their premises it becomes an issue.

Film away !
 
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Pillager said:
Im fairly sure that filming young kids can land you in hot water.

but thats just because i ahve no faith in common sense and the CPS being linked.
indeed - depends on the circumstances and manner/nature of the filimg, age of the kids, what they are doing etc.... which is why I just left it at the line - "would have to be careful of is the potential problems arising from videoing children, but with mitigating circumstances even that can be worked around.".

If at all possible I try to avoid children getting into the shot at all - but it happens occasionally. I am not going to miss damning video evidence simply because their - (the target/subject's) - child wanders into the frame, though again - it would depend on exact circumstance.
 
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