Naafi workers death in service

#1
Hi all, can anyone confirm that there is no death in service payment for Civi EFI NAAFI workers in Afghan ?

Bit strange that the 148SQN RLC NAAFI workers (TA) would be covered but non TA wouldn't be. Same country, same risks, same flights, same road trips but no payment from the MoD if they are injured or killed through any connection with work !

PAX insurance won't cover them as non-TA or Regs, is it just me that can see a black hole here ?

Best quote so far for 12 months cover £800 !

Anyone with advice on this please RSVP or links to a insurance company that would cover us.

Thanks
Biff32
 
#2
Surely if you are Civvy workers you should be offered some form of cover or possibly some form of subsidy on premiums via your Civvy employer ie NAAFI! I cannot see why the MOD should cover you if you are not employed by the MOD!! Or am I missing something??

PW
 

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#3
Answer's in the question. You're not MOD. You're a civvie in a civvie company who just happens to be working in the civvie shop in Afghanistan.
 
#4
civvi workers dont take same risks as 148sqn at all, they never leave the safety of main camps. i am ex reg infantry and was with 148 in afghan,stagged on loads,made brews,its a shit job working with shit cnuts,they recruit fat nackers from civvies,give them 2weeks TA training and a uniform and they class themselves soldiers,the whole sqadron is an absolute nightmare full of wannabes who would get turned away from regs, AVOID THESE IDIOTS AT ALL COSTS
 
#5
Hey, Biff32, any chance of a few buckshee Naafi Growlers?
 

Fugly

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#6
The big glaring clue about "no death in service payment" is that you're not bloody serving. The TA are.

What a chod post.
 
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#8
civvi workers dont take same risks as 148sqn at all, they never leave the safety of main camps. i am ex reg infantry and was with 148 in afghan,stagged on loads,made brews,its a shit job working with shit cnuts,they recruit fat nackers from civvies,give them 2weeks TA training and a uniform and they class themselves soldiers,the whole sqadron is an absolute nightmare full of wannabes who would get turned away from regs, AVOID THESE IDIOTS AT ALL COSTS
Do your mates call you Trigger?

Do you have any mates?
 
#11
The big glaring clue about "no death in service payment" is that you're not bloody serving. The TA are.

What a chod post.
Death in Service doesn't just refer to military service. It can refer to any member of a pension scheme or someone covered by a works insurance scheme. Death Benefits - The Pensions Advisory Service (TPAS)
But don't let facts stop you posting ill thought out rubbish in a sarcastic manner as if it's obvious.

Who's the chod now?
 
#12
civvi workers dont take same risks as 148sqn at all, they never leave the safety of main camps. i am ex reg infantry and was with 148 in afghan,stagged on loads,made brews,its a shit job working with shit cnuts,they recruit fat nackers from civvies,give them 2weeks TA training and a uniform and they class themselves soldiers,the whole sqadron is an absolute nightmare full of wannabes who would get turned away from regs, AVOID THESE IDIOTS AT ALL COSTS
patch27 has not made any friends yet..........

cut from your profile loser, run away and play soldiers somewhere else!!!!!
 
#14
civvi workers dont take same risks as 148sqn at all, they never leave the safety of main camps. i am ex reg infantry and was with 148 in afghan,stagged on loads,made brews,its a shit job working with shit cnuts,they recruit fat nackers from civvies,give them 2weeks TA training and a uniform and they class themselves soldiers,the whole sqadron is an absolute nightmare full of wannabes who would get turned away from regs, AVOID THESE IDIOTS AT ALL COSTS
You're a little bit out of date I think - Rumour has it that a waiver has been signed to allow these civi workers to leave Bsn and go fwd for the remainder of H15 until some TA blokes can deploy at some point on H16 to run an RDS!
 
#15
Do you wear the Queens uniform?

Do you have an Army number? Do you get awarded medals? My opinion is that the NAAFI should pay you identical benefits to what MOD would pay to an RLC uniformed person.

One of the points to RLC/EFI or Navy equivalents is that if you serve overseas in a war zone then you are protected by the Geneva Convention.
 
#16
Answer's in the question. You're not MOD. You're a civvie in a civvie company who just happens to be working in the civvie shop in Afghanistan.
I think that you may be wrong. During WW2 when NAAFI sent men and women overseas they wore the uniform of ATS or RASC and had PROPER Army serial numbers. There is a difference between NAAFI civi workers employed at home that overseas in war zones. Look at the NAAFI web site, please.
 
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#17
I know a few NAAFI workers who nearly died in service. Most times it involved being dragged over a counter and filled in, but there was a bird in Munster who was nearly shagged to death, the dirty scutter.
 
#18
probably spent more time on tour than you've spent in the army,tosser,probably a remf
Really - that would put you on tour for 30 years................

Two things, there is a distinct difference in the descriptors and language used by those who are or have served, and you do not have that language or comprehension (hmmmmmmmm). Secondly, wearing a Combat Jacket to Tesco's to do the shopping for your Nan does not "in the Army, make you"........

Jog on WALT
 
#19
Do you wear the Queens uniform?

Do you have an Army number? Do you get awarded medals? My opinion is that the NAAFI should pay you identical benefits to what MOD would pay to an RLC uniformed person.

One of the points to RLC/EFI or Navy equivalents is that if you serve overseas in a war zone then you are protected by the Geneva Convention.
Are you who I think you are? Your posts seem somehow familiar.

Do I like you?

Or do you like this?
 

OldSnowy

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#20
EFI are the NAAFI on Ops. There are both uniformed and non-uniformed workers there; the vast majority (at least in Afghanistan) are not entitled to wear uniforms. They are employees on contract, similar to other CONDO employees, such as those working for Paradigm, KBR, etc. They are not MOD Civil Servants or Crown Servants. In general, those in uniform - TA members - tend to deploy further forward than most of the civvy version, but due to a shortage of TA ones (we've been at 'war' a loooong time, don't forget, and mobilisation can't happen permanently) there may be a few civvies further forward than normal. In some EFI shops, out in the PBs, there's even ordinary Toms taken off their day job to run them. That's really a waste of highly trained bodies, so I think that they are trying to get EFI civvy staff further forward to replace them.

And yes, they are contractors, but they'll still get the same medals - NATO ISAF and HERRICK - as do Soldiers, Civil Servants, and other contractors, and have the same living and working conditions.
 
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