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N Korean nuclear strike could cause chaos in US

#81
and what do you think will happen in N.Korea? Same thing as happened in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Actually I think it will probably go the same way as it did before but quicker, nastier and a lot more fun to watch in colour with the big boys only getting involved to do some arm yanking and talking in shell-likes.
 
#82
Isn't there an expectation that No 10 says yes whenever The White House calls? Didn't we have 2 Inf Bdes deployed, 43 Cdo and some RN involvement? I believe that the RAF sat this one out. No Fighter or Bomber squadron was deployed at any rate.
 
#84
Dollsteeth "Probably a good dose of reality coupled with precision bombing of vital infastructure and major units, the country would unravel itself." They tried that back in the 50s, it did not work. Very hard to destroy the infrastructure of a country that essentially does not have one and to which mass casualties mean absolutely nothing. If you can find one have a short chat with a Korean War veteran, I think you may be less arrogant about our potential afterwards. Add in the huge changes in national psyche since then and imagine the public reaction to a company position being over-run, let along entire Bdes handed their cards. A few hundred dead in one engagement should do it. As a nation we don't have the stomach for a real fight anymore.
 
#86
They can't do that without tubing their own economy and I am willing to bet that, no matter how much the US owes, it will not sit still if someone launches a missile attack on Hawaii.
Not even Barry Soetaro, the Nobel Peace Prize winner (Undeserved) of 2009 would stand idly by and let the North Koreans drop nuclear missiles on his (alleged) birthplace. We wouldn't even wait for the impeachment articles to go down in the House; he'd be strung up on a gibbet in front of the DNC National Headquarters and his veep, the blowhard Biden, would be broken on the wheel like Quasimodo. ;-)
 
#87
Dollsteeth "Probably a good dose of reality coupled with precision bombing of vital infastructure and major units, the country would unravel itself." They tried that back in the 50s, it did not work. Very hard to destroy the infrastructure of a country that essentially does not have one and to which mass casualties mean absolutely nothing. If you can find one have a short chat with a Korean War veteran, I think you may be less arrogant about our potential afterwards. Add in the huge changes in national psyche since then and imagine the public reaction to a company position being over-run, let along entire Bdes handed their cards. A few hundred dead in one engagement should do it. As a nation we don't have the stomach for a real fight anymore.
I quite agree we dont have the stomach for it anymore which is why I didnt mention UK plc once, nor do I think the US would necessarily deploy troops on mass which is why I didnt say that either.

I forget who but someone posted in another related thread that sabre rattling is all they have left now (a sign that sanctions are working maybe?), much like the child that throws the dummy out to get attention and I agree however you cant account for the orders of one man living in his own fantasy world.
 
#89
Presumably 'Class-A combat readiness' is code for 'we have no real intention of kicking off'.

If it did kick off and 9 million nutters charged accross the border I would be interested to observe the logistical challenges of responding to the question on every North Korean squaddie's lips- 'what's for lunch boss?'
 
#90
If it really came to that? a **** load of TCM and US air assets with a slightly reluctant South Korean set of boots on the ground sprinkled with US advisors, the similarity to history meaning US public wouldnt allow it to escalate beyond that even if it needed too.
 
#91
Actually I think it will probably go the same way as it did before but quicker, nastier and a lot more fun to watch in colour with the big boys only getting involved to do some arm yanking and talking in shell-likes.
Possibly, IMHO, if China do not get involved, it will start off with an airwar as they always do and progress into a ground offensive which will be over fairly quickly, but will produce a lot of casualties on the allied side. Then it will progress into the likes of Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan and eventually we will bug out after a decade or so of losing men (par for late 20th and early 21st century warfare).

I realise that some are saying that we haven't got the stomach for it anymore after the waste of time in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I really cannot see the US taking a back seat on this. The people may have tired of it all, but the US government in Koreas case is gunning to go to war.

Personally I dont think China or Russia will get involved heavily, they will just put up a lot of rhetoric and that will be that. God knows what will happen if nukes are used.
 
#92
Presumably 'Class-A combat readiness' is code for 'we have no real intention of kicking off'.

If it did kick off and 9 million nutters charged accross the border I would be interested to observe the logistical challenges of responding to the question on every North Korean squaddie's lips- 'what's for lunch boss?'
I think that G4 issue would be dealt with according to the Soviet idea - foraging / self-help.
 
#93
Presumably 'Class-A combat readiness' is code for 'we have no real intention of kicking off'.

If it did kick off and 9 million nutters charged accross the border I would be interested to observe the logistical challenges of responding to the question on every North Korean squaddie's lips- 'what's for lunch boss?'
Given the standard of living in the North, I'd imagine the contents of the average ROKers kitchen would feed a platoon for a month.
 
#94
Possibly, IMHO, if China do not get involved, it will start off with an airwar as they always do and progress into a ground offensive which will be over fairly quickly, but will produce a lot of casualties on the allied side. Then it will progress into the likes of Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan and eventually we will bug out after a decade or so of losing men (par for late 20th and early 21st century warfare).

I realise that some are saying that we haven't got the stomach for it anymore after the waste of time in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I really cannot see the US taking a back seat on this. The people may have tired of it all, but the US government in Koreas case is gunning to go to war.

Personally I dont think China or Russia will get involved heavily, they will just put up a lot of rhetoric and that will be that. God knows what will happen if nukes are used.
I don't think so. Where will the guerillas get supplies from? NK is pretty much reliant on food aid.
 
#95
If it really came to that? a **** load of TCM and US air assets with a slightly reluctant South Korean set of boots on the ground sprinkled with US advisors, the similarity to history meaning US public wouldnt allow it to escalate beyond that even if it needed too.
I am not to sure about that. The US was gunning for war after that S.Korean ship got hit by a mine or whatever happened to it. I seem to recall they increased their troops in S. Korea at that time in case it did kick off.

I also believe that the US government cares little about what its people think and indeed the US public are to a degree brainwashed into this already.

Either way, hopefully, this will all die down and normal asian cold war peace will resume.
 
#96
Presumably 'Class-A combat readiness' is code for 'we have no real intention of kicking off'.

If it did kick off and 9 million nutters charged accross the border I would be interested to observe the logistical challenges of responding to the question on every North Korean squaddie's lips- 'what's for lunch boss?'
I think it means Kim and his Politburo have been overdoing it on the Class As and are now behaving like Tony Montana.
 
#98
I am not to sure about that. The US was gunning for war after that S.Korean ship got hit by a mine or whatever happened to it. I seem to recall they increased their troops in S. Korea at that time in case it did kick off.

I also believe that the US government cares little about what its people think and indeed the US public are to a degree brainwashed into this already.

Either way, hopefully, this will all die down and normal asian cold war peace will resume.
I doubt we will be anywhere near any of it to be fair.
 
Biscuits Brown's prime success indicator for Western nation involvement in war.

"Can your troops drink the local water?"

If yes.... We win! **** Yeah!
If no... Prepare for ignominious climb down (or stay home). :)
 

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