N Korea threatens military action

#1
So N Korea threatens military action on the South after breaking UN resolutions, so the UN hold more talks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8069457.stm

Love this comment;

"The United Nations Security Council is working on a strong condemnation of what it says is North Korea's contravention of its conventions."

WTF does that mean? - Break our resolutions and we'll hold more talks.

What's the weather like in Korea?
 
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#2
stinker said:
So N Korea threatens military action on the South after breaking UN resolutions, so the UN hold more talks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8069457.stm

Love this comment;

"The United Nations Security Council is working on a strong condemnation of what it says is North Korea's contravention of its conventions."

WTF does that mean? - Break our resolutions and we'll hold more talks.
Live as it happens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0hk9vaqWUg

I cannot be the only ARRSER who thought of this when the news came in of the Nork nuke test over the weekend.
 
#3
Just seen their military goose stepping across my tv.It actually appears as if they are all exactly the same height.Is this very good planning,luck or genetic engineering?
 
#4
vvaannmmaann said:
Just seen their military goose stepping across my tv.It actually appears as if they are all exactly the same height.Is this very good planning,luck or genetic engineering?
More likely malnutrition since the country is starving
 
#5
Wondering if Andy-S can comment, as he is over there, hope he werent waiting to do the sequel to his book "To The Last Round" (which is a great book, and worthy of a plug)
 
#6
stinker said:
So N Korea threatens military action on the South after breaking UN resolutions, so the UN hold more talks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8069457.stm

Love this comment;

"The United Nations Security Council is working on a strong condemnation of what it says is North Korea's contravention of its conventions."

WTF does that mean? - Break our resolutions and we'll hold more talks.

What's the weather like in Korea?
Bloody cold in the winter! Its probably just another round of brinksmanship. The N Koreans do this every so often in order to get deals and concessions over aid and food. Possibly they're even more up the creek than usual which is why they're taking it this far. Everyone knows in a stand up fight the malnourished NKPA wouldn't last long against their Southern brothers and the Americans. Of course they could just be going for broke, then all bets are off. :(
 
#7
Countrylad said:
What's the weather like in Korea?
The long range forecast predicts spells of bright sunshine with a high of 6000 degrees C and winds gusting to 200 kts. :pale:
 
#8
Magic_Mushroom said:
Countrylad said:
What's the weather like in Korea?
The long range forecast predicts spells of bright sunshine with a high of 6000 degrees C and winds gusting to 200 kts. :pale:
Ah well, so long as its a localised weather pattern it won't be the end of the world will it? :)
 

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#9
I'm actually starting to think they may be serious this time.

The US/UN has been tightening the noose for a few years now, hence the starvation, and an ever-more desperate leadership.

The little guy (sorry, they're all little), the little guy who's the top dog isn't going to live forever, and him and his boys have got pretty much nothing left to lose. They don't give a t0ss about the people, and they know that China won't let them get invaded, so if they start a war with the South, it may be a nice swan-song for them.
 

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#10
Countrylad said:
stinker said:
So N Korea threatens military action on the South after breaking UN resolutions, so the UN hold more talks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8069457.stm

Love this comment;

"The United Nations Security Council is working on a strong condemnation of what it says is North Korea's contravention of its conventions."

WTF does that mean? - Break our resolutions and we'll hold more talks.

What's the weather like in Korea?
Bloody cold in the winter! Its probably just another round of brinksmanship. The N Koreans do this every so often in order to get deals and concessions over aid and food. Possibly they're even more up the creek than usual which is why they're taking it this far. Everyone knows in a stand up fight the malnourished NKPA wouldn't last long against their Southern brothers and the Americans. Of course they could just be going for broke, then all bets are off. :(
Not sure about the malnourished NKPA. They did fairly well in the 1950s against some well-fed people.
There is a school of thought that holds that The Dear Leader (or whatever his current title is) is willing to go all the way in order to have his youngest son as a successor. The NKPA are a huge army, with a strong if poorly equipped air force. Huge amounts of tanks and artillery, far more than South Korea has. Also predicted they would threaten Japan with nukes to make USA stand off.
 
#11
They wouldn't take the military option, it would be just the excuse the world needed to remove the regime and they know it. Its just the usual NK gobbing off.
 
#12
I actually track this sort of thing for work. I am therefore happy to tell you all that yes, this type of bickering has been going on over the years, no questions. What is slightly less reassuring is the sustained nature of these exchanges recently, the intensity of them and the geopolitical atmosphere currently. Essentially the brakes appear to be working fitfully and every rattling sabre leads to another one, rather than to a long period of rest and sabre maintenance.
 
#13
Magic_Mushroom said:
Countrylad said:
What's the weather like in Korea?
The long range forecast predicts spells of bright sunshine with a high of 6000 degrees C and winds gusting to 200 kts. :pale:
I think that the temperature would be a shade higher than 6000 C, maybe 6,000,000 C or do you mean colour temp?

Aircrew with a sense of humour, obviously not a nav. :D
 
#14
Biped said:
I'm actually starting to think they may be serious this time.

The US/UN has been tightening the noose for a few years now, hence the starvation, and an ever-more desperate leadership.

The little guy (sorry, they're all little), the little guy who's the top dog isn't going to live forever, and him and his boys have got pretty much nothing left to lose. They don't give a t0ss about the people, and they know that China won't let them get invaded, so if they start a war with the South, it may be a nice swan-song for them.
I don't know that China would risk that much to support their 'fraternal brothers' as they now have major trade links with the rest of the world that they cannot afford to have damaged. In the 50s China was much more isolationist than it is now and protecting their 'little brother' was a good socialist thing to do but NK is moving to the dangerous end of the spectrum and I would think that China would not want an uncontrolable nuke armed state on it's borders
 
#15
old_fat_and_hairy said:
Countrylad said:
stinker said:
So N Korea threatens military action on the South after breaking UN resolutions, so the UN hold more talks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8069457.stm

Love this comment;

"The United Nations Security Council is working on a strong condemnation of what it says is North Korea's contravention of its conventions."

WTF does that mean? - Break our resolutions and we'll hold more talks.

What's the weather like in Korea?
Bloody cold in the winter! Its probably just another round of brinksmanship. The N Koreans do this every so often in order to get deals and concessions over aid and food. Possibly they're even more up the creek than usual which is why they're taking it this far. Everyone knows in a stand up fight the malnourished NKPA wouldn't last long against their Southern brothers and the Americans. Of course they could just be going for broke, then all bets are off. :(
Not sure about the malnourished NKPA. They did fairly well in the 1950s against some well-fed people.
There is a school of thought that holds that The Dear Leader (or whatever his current title is) is willing to go all the way in order to have his youngest son as a successor. The NKPA are a huge army, with a strong if poorly equipped air force. Huge amounts of tanks and artillery, far more than South Korea has. Also predicted they would threaten Japan with nukes to make USA stand off.
Slightly different situation then, first they weren't malnourished and secondly they had a little bit of help from the neighbours to the North, otherwise they would have been flattened PDQ. Iwould not be led astray by numbers. The Soviets had large numbers of everything, but it didn't help them much. Poor and insufficient training being one reason and another was p1ss poor maintenance. I strongly suspect that North Korea has similar problems.
 

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#16
All_Torque said:
They wouldn't take the military option, it would be just the excuse the world needed to remove the regime and they know it. Its just the usual NK gobbing off.
That doesn't matter to the Leader. When he was being 'interviwed' by his father for the job he was asked about nuclear exchanges. he replied that he was willing to have his own country, and the world destroyed, 'As a world withouth Korea is not a world worth having'.
The man is a certified lunatic, with no thought of survival, no rational thought and is deluded about his own stature. And, there is no-one in the country that can stop him.
 

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#17
1. Team America now means I can no longer sit through a J2 brief on this lot without thinking "Hans Hans your busting my balls" or "little to left little to left - fook you hans bliks"

2. So all those people who tell us that we don't need nuclear missile or hi-tec aircraft and ships because all the world is concentrating on AK/RPGs in hot and dry areas must be re-thinking their positio. Properly not but it does show how unstable the world is and the fact we have to have balanced forces for all types of warfare. N Korea is not the only country that is lead by a madman and posses a threat to UK interest.
 
#18
Does this now mean Team America is now a satire? All this time we were concentrating on Muslim fundamentalist terrorists when actually it's the North Koreans!

On a serious note, the N Koreans are a long way off having deployable missile launched Nukes, so whilst the threat is there its not reached crisis levels yet. The NKPA is not as advanced as its Southern counterparts and it still has to cross a socking great big minefield. Any attack would end up being the best moving target range day the S Koreans have had for ages. Its sabre rattling, very aggresive sabre ratling, they're obviously desperate.
 
#19
Countrylad said:
On a serious note, the N Koreans are a long way off having deployable missile launched Nukes, so whilst the threat is there its not reached crisis levels yet.
My bold.

Their missile range will increase over time. Can the world afford to give them time... it seems they've had 50 years so far and all they've become is more dangerous...
 
#20
Drlligaf said:
Magic_Mushroom said:
Countrylad said:
What's the weather like in Korea?
The long range forecast predicts spells of bright sunshine with a high of 6000 degrees C and winds gusting to 200 kts. :pale:
I think that the temperature would be a shade higher than 6000 C, maybe 6,000,000 C or do you mean colour temp?

Aircrew with a sense of humour, obviously not a nav. :D
Mean temp in the shade iaw standard Met Office practice! :D

And no, I'm not a nav!!

Regards,
MM
 

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