Muslim Reservist Loses Legal Battle

#3
I'll second that with bells on.
 
#4
Good.

So what did the nice muslim RAF person join for ? Did he think that as a member of the armed forces he gets to choose who he fights and when ? What he really means is he only may fight someone who is attacking his slit trench in England and they have to be white and have a large illuminated badge which says "I am not a muslim"

This should be in the NAAFI then I could turn the turets keyboard on.
 

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#5
Not before time.

You take the shilling, you go where you're told.
We might have been lied to about the cause for this war, as we have been in the past, but to take the dosh & run......?

Being a medic and a Crab, how much actual fighting would he have been involved in ?
Shouldn't he have been providing medical aid to fellow servicemen, and fellow muslims, who had been injured ? Or is that also against his beliefs ?

Sounds to me more like an excuse to cover the wide yellow streak.
 
#6
I think he was right to exercise his rights to decide (at the last moment) that (in this case) he was a conscientious objector.

Ah balls changed my mind firing squad at dawn :twisted:
 
#7
How many muslim members of the armed forces have actually gone and "fought" against a muslim enemy ?

Surely this is a case of cowardice and if so I'd like to volunteer to be in the firing squad, I would of course fix bayonets in case I was the unlucky sod to get issued a blank.
 
#8
Fuchs66 said:
I think he was right to exercise his rights to decide (at the last moment) that (in this case) he was a conscientious objector.

Ah balls changed my mind firing squad at dawn :twisted:
LOL. In fact the right of conscientious objection, long recognised in our law, does not give you the right to pick and choose campaigns.

The conscientious objection appeal system still exists, but this individual appears to have gone absent rather than appealing. The sentence he got appears light, no doubt this took into account that he was a reservist who had been out of the system.
 
#9
armourer said:
How many muslim members of the armed forces have actually gone and "fought" against a muslim enemy ?.
:twisted: Now that's not PC, justified but not PC tsk tsk tsk thought police on their way.
 
#10
I'd be interested to know exactly what punishment he does get , as a reservist could he attend a short course in corrective training ??
especially as he decided to AWOL himself in a time of conflict , i know for fact the average tom would get shafted big styles for this , but as far as reservists go i'm a bit in the dark ...... illumination anyone ??
 
#11
shortfuse said:
I'd be interested to know exactly what punishment he does get , as a reservist could he attend a short course in corrective training ??
especially as he decided to AWOL himself in a time of conflict , i know for fact the average tom would get shafted big styles for this , but as far as reservists go i'm a bit in the dark ...... illumination anyone ??
Penalty imposed on him seems to have been 9 days loss of pay, 7 days loss of privileges.
 
#12
hackle said:
shortfuse said:
I'd be interested to know exactly what punishment he does get , as a reservist could he attend a short course in corrective training ??
especially as he decided to AWOL himself in a time of conflict , i know for fact the average tom would get shafted big styles for this , but as far as reservists go i'm a bit in the dark ...... illumination anyone ??
Penalty imposed on him seems to have been 9 days loss of pay, 7 days loss of privileges.
WHAAAAAAT?????????????? firkin unbelievable :evil:
 
#13
In response to Armourer. In GW1 there seemed to be no shortage of muslim countries lining up to give Saddam a slap on the botty, all part of the coallition forces. In the UK forces I know of at least two.

Imagine if his father was a Muslim from Croatia, employed as a fireman and married to a Catholic. Pretty well makes him unemployable in the British Forces.
 
#14
what privelidges is he going to lose as a reservist , confined to house?
sweeping his front path in combats and cefo ? and how much has this little lot cost the long suffering tax payer ?? :evil:
 
#15
Weak livered punishment. :evil: :evil:

It should have been a long sentence in the detention centre, or what ever they call them now in this PC crazy world.
 
#16
hackle said:
shortfuse said:
I'd be interested to know exactly what punishment he does get , as a reservist could he attend a short course in corrective training ??
especially as he decided to AWOL himself in a time of conflict , i know for fact the average tom would get shafted big styles for this , but as far as reservists go i'm a bit in the dark ...... illumination anyone ??
Penalty imposed on him seems to have been 9 days loss of pay, 7 days loss of privileges.
When Dr Evil was called up for Telic Numero Uno, Mrs Evil said: "Just don't go."

Dr Evil replied, legalistically, but without checking the law: "Would you prefer it if I went to war for a year or to prison for two?"

Imagine the hilarity in the "Death Star" when Mrs Evil heard about RAF guy's sentence. 8O

Serves me right for wittering on about law, eh?
 
#17
Dr Evil said:
When Dr Evil was called up for Telic Numero Uno, Mrs Evil said: "Just don't go."

Dr Evil replied, legalistically, but without checking the law: "Would you prefer it if I went to war for a year or to prison for two?"

Imagine the hilarity in the "Death Star" when Mrs Evil heard about RAF guy's sentence. 8O

Serves me right for wittering on about law, eh?
Used the same reasoning myself hope to hell the other half doesnt find out about this luckily she's Polish so maybe I will be lucky. 8O
 
#18
so the message sent out is your reservist liability is worthless , dont bother turning up cos you'll only get a slapped wrist"
now , i know the judge said he had no defence and should of quit on the grounds of conscientious objection , but does anyone out there in the big wide world of arrse know of any non muslim soldiers who've binned it , and what their punishment was ???
 
#19
shortfuse said:
so the message sent out is your reservist liability is worthless , dont bother turning up cos you'll only get a slapped wrist"
now , i know the judge said he had no defence and should of quit on the grounds of conscientious objection , but does anyone out there in the big wide world of arrse know of any non muslim soldiers who've binned it , and what their punishment was ???
I know what you're getting at but it is very thin ice you're skating around on :lol: the general feeling (mine included) is that the PC crap has penetrated the armed forces so much so, that non white/non christians are given preferential/more lenient treatment I've got no figures to back this up (I can imagine such figures, if they exist would be extremely difficult to come by) and I'm certainly not racist I just have a big problem with PC attitudes especially positive discrimination as this is almost always counterproductive.
 
#20
This creature was never going to be sent to Iraq - he was to be posted to a UK unit where he would be involved in preparing those who were going on Op Telic. The 'compassionate and family' reasons he originally gave to get out of mobilisation revolved around his wish to continue to work in the family business - as I have mentioned before, his religious objections came later.

He is an odious wretch who should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 

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