Muslim accosts injured Para in hospital

#1
Muslim accosts injured Para in hospital
Daily Telegraph Link
A paratrooper wounded in Afghanistan was threatened by a Muslim visitor to the British hospital where he is recovering.

Seriously wounded soldiers have complained that they are worried about their safety after being left on wards that are open to the public at Selly Oak Hospital, Birmingham.

On one occasion a member of the Parachute Regiment, still dressed in his combat uniform after being evacuated from Afghanistan, was accosted by a Muslim over the British involvement in the country.

"You have been killing my Muslim brothers in Afghanistan," the man said during a tirade.

Because the soldier was badly injured and could not defend himself, he was very worried for his safety, sources told The Daily Telegraph.
Ahh good old freedom of speech! :D
 
#2
Ths is not acceptable:

Muslim accosts injured Para in hospital
By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 02/10/2006)

"A paratrooper wounded in Afghanistan was threatened by a Muslim visitor to the British hospital where he is recovering.

Seriously wounded soldiers have complained that they are worried about their safety after being left on wards that are open to the public at Selly Oak Hospital, Birmingham.

On one occasion a member of the Parachute Regiment, still dressed in his combat uniform after being evacuated from Afghanistan, was accosted by a Muslim over the British involvement in the country........"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...GAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2006/10/02/ntroops02.xml
 
#3
What an Outrage, Your Soldiers deserve the best Care & Security while they Convalecse from their wounds.

Isnt it possible to at least put a Sentry on their wards to Protect them from such things?
 
#4
Sorry RT, we both appear to be awake and alert while everyone is asleep and I rather think your choice of location is probably more appropriate!

Regards and best wishes to you
Iols
 
#5
That is just so... I can't... :? ... :evil: .... :cry:
 
#6
LineDoggie said:
Isnt it possible to at least put a Sentry on their wards to Protect them from such things?
But how would the sentry protect the ward?

Laying his hands on the protestor would almost certainly lead to a charge of racially aggravated assault. 6 months in jail for the sentry and a fat wad of legal aid for the protestor to sue the MOD for violating his human rights.

If the patient was typical of the few paratroopers I have met, I'm sure he had a few choice words of his own to add to the debate. Perhaps he needs to be more worried about this during his stay in hospital.
 
#7
my Muslim brothers in Afghanistan,
I would push for the 'brother' who said this to be forcibly reunited with his 'family' in Afghanistan.

Why, in this day and age, are these men being put in the open ward and not afforded the privacy of a side room?

Beebs x
 
#8
Ancient_Mariner said:
LineDoggie said:
Isnt it possible to at least put a Sentry on their wards to Protect them from such things?
But how would the sentry protect the ward?

Laying his hands on the protestor would almost certainly lead to a charge of racially aggravated assault. 6 months in jail for the sentry and a fat wad of legal aid for the protestor to sue the MOD for violating his human rights.

If the patient was typical of the few paratroopers I have met, I'm sure he had a few choice words of his own to add to the debate. Perhaps he needs to be more worried about this during his stay in hospital.
-Sorry, didnt realize, as here in the States anyone trying to harass a Soldier in a Hospital would be arrested for trespass, harrassment, making Terroristic threats, etc.

Granted that most of our Wounded stay in Military Hospitals which have an MP presence. In the case of Walter Reed Army Medical Center in D.C. Protestors are kept off the Grounds completely.
 
#9
I assume the soldier was arrested for Offensive behaviour and the Islamist gentleman who had been insulted by the face of the oppressor has received compensation.
john
 
#10
It's not good, and this stems from the closure of military hospitals. When RNH Haslar was announced as a prospective closure, one of the concerns was security and safety of military personnel. Assurances were made at the time that security would be taken into consideration. Of course, the move of the Defence Medical Services to Birmingham has brought it's own huge problems. Second Sea Lord visited the RN Nurses training up there, and was horrified. Not only had they lost the Dark Blue ethos (not carrying ID cards, not generally aware of how the RN works, etc), but they were being used as free labour on the wards to cover short shifts, weekends, etc. I know that Liebour moved everything up there to create jobs, but we are now facing a different enemy. What would realistically stop someone from going up there and doing real harm to our guys on the wards? The MOD spokesman is lying, pure and simple, in that he knows that there is no way of protecting these people unless they put armed guards on the wards. And that was suggested during a security review but dismissed.....just another example of the Forces being shafted, but nothing will happen. As Tim Collins said on GMTV this morning, the British public just don't care enough, and we are not vote winners.
 
#11
The national lottery generates more than enough cash to fund a decent modern hospital in each county in UK yet they squandered it on the dome.

Re MOD medical services; they should immediatly U turn on the decision to scrap BMH's, not least because of the growing numbers that are likely to need help for (and I hate this word) MENTAL problems that are likely to arise from current operations.

Re muslim berating an injured soldier; the home secretary should implement RTU proceedings (days not years!) regardless of that 'human rights' chestnut...
 
#13
It stems more from an absence of reason. Perhaps if the Para’s oppos or family had accosted the nearest Muslim and ranted that ‘your Muslim brothers tried to kill my boy and have already killed some of his colleagues’ there would be hell on. As it is, no action will be taken, no minister will be outraged and appeasement and praise for the multi cultural society will continue apace.

Gloom.
 
#14
I wonder if any police/legal action has taken place against said muslim for this alleged incident? It would also be interesting to hear what the muslim Council has to say about this type of incident - there would be, no doubt, some feeble, limp wristed hand-wringing that typifies the attitude that pervades our society at the moment. I doubt a strong codemnation of the incident would be forthcoming. The only quarter it might come from is John Reid - let's hope he sees a file on the incident.

I wonder what the muslim brother contributes to our society?
 
#15
The best treatment for injured troops is in the NHS, the doctors and nurses in NHS hospitals have more experience and give better treatment than BUPA etc in most cases.

Selly Oak has great burns and trauma care, perhaps a military funded ward or two on the grounds with a couple of plods on the door/grounds?
 
#16
This is outrageous and only goes to show how vulnerable injured servicemen are when placed in Civilian hospitals. I have no doubt that there are extremist muslims out there who would think nothing of attacking a hospital in the hope of killing servicemen injured in Iraq or Afghanistan. Somebody needs to remind our useless ungrateful amnesiac Government that their pals in the IRA attacked the military wing at Musgrave Park Hospital Belfast in the '80s and murdered an RAMC Warrant Officer IIRC? I'm sure this is not beyond the capabilities of some of the Al'Qaeda fans in this country! :x
 
#17
fingers_1661 said:
Re MOD medical services; they should immediatly U turn on the decision to scrap BMH's, not least because of the growing numbers that are likely to need help for (and I hate this word) MENTAL problems that are likely to arise from current operations.

..
See the RAMC/QARANC forum on this debate. We have been saying BMHs should be returned but the MoD and the DMS will never admit such a serious failing.

You do realise, the Germans have some 8 Military hospitals, some very good teaching ones and we have.......................NONE! And yet we send our Armed Forces everywhere and the Germans go...........nice, cuddly safe places! :roll:
 
#18
eveyuk said:
The best treatment for injured troops is in the NHS, the doctors and nurses in NHS hospitals have more experience and give better treatment than BUPA etc in most cases.

Selly Oak has great burns and trauma care, perhaps a military funded ward or two on the grounds with a couple of plods on the door/grounds?
Once upon a time, we had in the DMS some very good trauma trained and burns trained nurses/surgeons but now thanks to the MDHU concept, we do get occasionally good nurses trained (exception rather than the rule) but damn are the rest good at geriatric care
 
#20
Wonder of Blair, Brown or Beckett have bothered their collective ars*s to visit any of the injured yet? Perhaps their collective backscratching performance last week was just too important to allow them to focus on important agenda items - like ensuring swift victory with minimum casualties, or ensuring that the defence budget is funded adequately to be able to resource their foreign policies etc etc etc.
 

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